• How not to spend £35 million of transfer money | Football, Newcastle  

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      It seems from the comments we keep hearing from Derek Llambias that the money received from Liverpool for the services of Andy Carroll has been used up.

      Some people simply don't believe this due to the enormous mistrust of anything this man/puppet/shyster says.

      So, let's look at where the transfer money we received has been utilised:
      • Agent and signing on fees for Demba Ba, Sylvain Marveaux and Yoha Cabaye.
      • Money put aside for 'possible January signings'.
      • A contract for Jose Enrique if he wants it.
      • (Unconfirmed) - To go towards the wage bill.
      • (Unconfirmed) - Undersoil heating for the training ground.
      • (Apparently) money for a new striker.

      Now, let's give Mr Llambias the benefit of the doubt for once. Let's say he is telling the gospel truth about the above. Let's say all of the figures add up and yes, indeed the money has been used up.

      Then the issue isn't, 'when are you gonna spend it?', but 'what the hell do you think you're doing wasting transfer money in this way?!!'.

      I completely understand running a football club as a business. If I were charge I would do the same. But what seems to be completely absent from our current administration is the realisation that the Football Club as a business lives and dies by how good/bad the Football TEAM is.

      The income the business of the football club makes, is 100 per cent dependant on the team on the pitch. If you qualify for the Champions League you make an extra £40 million. If you get relegated from the Premier League you lose £40 million. Those are just the two biggest examples.

      When Newcastle United Football Club received £35 million for one player, they had a chance of investing in the team to fast forward our development and rise up that league table quicker than estimated/planned. That's not to mention the deadwood we would sell with every player coming in to take up their place in the squad. So really you could take that £35m and add another £15m -£20m at least.

      But yet what have we done? Here are a few examples:

      FACT - Zero NET spend on transfer fees.
      FACT - Sold top scorer and club captain.
      FACT - Wage bill hardly any different seeing as Nolan and Campbell takes £90,000 off and the three new players adds about £100,000 on.
      FACT (will be) - Will sell Jose Enrique to the highest bidder, which also in turn writes off this 'contract' we have offered him, which will also take his £50,000 wage off the wage bill, as well as inject us with around £10 million more in 'transfer' money.
      FACT - Have brought in injury prone, unproven in the Premier League, French fancies who come December might not like the cold and not put a full shift into the team. We will be TOTALLY relying on these signings to see what kind of season we will have. Scary.

      The most logical way of using the transfer money we received, for one player, is the following:
      • Bring in at least two or three quality, proven strikers.
      • By all means bring in the signings we have made so far, seeing as they haven't cost owt! To add to this, a proven Premier League midfielder or two to bolster our engine room.
      • Bring in a left back, a centre back and right back at least, as our defence was our weakest area last season.
      • Sell Jose Enrique for at least £10 million to whoever wants him, but try to sell him to a foreign team. Maybe even sell Jonas to a foreign team as well for about £7-10 million.
      • Sell other deadwood to reduce wage bill and bring in modest fees to add to transfer kitty (ie. Smith, Ranger, Best, Lovenkrands, Xisco, Routledge etc.)

      At the end of August, Newcastle would have a quality 25-man squad, with depth, that can genuinely challenge the top six. That's without breaking the bank as the Carroll, Nolan, Enrique, deadwood money will more than cover the expenditure on quality and quantity.

      It would create MORE Income to the club as a business because the team would perform better on the pitch. Higher league position/good cup run/European qualification/cup winner....just some of the possibilities.

      Better team = More income. If you can create this equation by not having a significant net expenditure, including fees and wages... you are laughing!

      But do you hear anyone laughing wearing Black and White?

      Somebody needs to tell all of these football club owners this very simple fact of business life at a football club, including Gold/Sullivan/Brady down in the Championship.

      But as far as we are concerned, we will be destined to be hugely handicapped by our own administration as they cant even buy a decent team when somebody gives them £40 million plus to use!

      Useless. Absolutely useless.

       

       

      This article was originally published in forum thread: How not to spend £35 million of transfer money. started by NufcBano View original post

       

       

      Comments 40 Comments
      1. BOOTBOY's Avatar
        BOOTBOY -
        lol
      1. holystone's Avatar
        holystone -
        Agree......
      1. 5 Goals 1 Hat Trick 11 Heroes-NUFC4LIFE's Avatar
        What a way to introduce yourself
      1. Heavy Metal Toon's Avatar
        Heavy Metal Toon -
        Mate this argument has been done tonnes of times before, and it achieves nothing. Ashley doesn't care and is just trying to rip the club for every penny he can, we know that, and articles like this aren't going to bother him one bit. All you'll do is draw the Ashley lovers in posting **** about how the money is actually being spent on players, because of agent fees and wages.

        Just don't bother mate, it aint worth it. All we can do right now is turn up for matches, support the lads and hope Ashley ****s off soon enough.
      1. Amnesiac's Avatar
        Amnesiac -
        Quote Originally Posted by Heavy Metal Toon View Post
        Mate this argument has been done tonnes of times before, and it achieves nothing. Ashley doesn't care and is just trying to rip the club for every sent it has, we know that, and articles like this aren't going to bother him one bit. All you'll do is draw the Ashley lovers in posting **** about how the money is being spent on players, because of agent fees and wages.

        Just don't bother mate, it aint worth it. All we can do right now is turn for matches, support the lads and hope Ashley ****s off soon enough.
        This tbh.
      1. NufcBano's Avatar
        NufcBano -
        ......or we cud not turn up for matches and make him **** off
      1. 5 Goals 1 Hat Trick 11 Heroes-NUFC4LIFE's Avatar
        Quote Originally Posted by NufcBano View Post
        ......or we cud not turn up for matches and make him **** off
        No.
      1. Heavy Metal Toon's Avatar
        Heavy Metal Toon -
        Quote Originally Posted by NufcBano View Post
        ......or we cud not turn up for matches and make him **** off
        What a ****ing stupid thing to suggest. How will that make him **** off? The only way he'll **** off is if he gets a good offer for the club from a buyer, and the only way that will happen is if the club is making a good profit, and boycotting matches wont help us -

        1) Because profits will decrease
        2) The lads will most likely be demoralized, performances will suffer and we could get relegated which will **** us over financially. We can't afford another relegation.
      1. Mrtiote's Avatar
        Mrtiote -
        The bastards are going to be using this 35 million for the next 10 years.
      1. Voluptuous Vuckic's Avatar
        Voluptuous Vuckic -
        At the end of the day, in most peoples opinion, the squad is stronger than what it was at the end of last season. Yes more players are needed and certain contracts should be renewed, but to suggest we boycoutt (see what I did there ) the stadium is just ridiculous.
      1. Why aye Cabaye's Avatar
        Why aye Cabaye -
        The annoying thing isn't where the money has been spent, we've made some good signings for sensible money and the undersoil heating at the training ground was essential. The thing I find annoying is the arguement that we've spent all this money so only have a small amount remaining for a striker. So Ashley is virtually saying that if we hadn't got the £35m for Carroll then there would be virtually no money available for anything, maybe about £7-8m for transfers and that would be it.
      1. Le Beatski's Avatar
        Le Beatski -
        i was going to write a proper response, but then i remembered that if a pic is worth 1000 words, an emoticon's got to be worth a few:

        this article =
      1. NufcBano's Avatar
        NufcBano -
        Surely the only way Ash will sell the club is if it is up for sale. The only way ash will put it up for sale is if we show him he isnt wanted. The only way to this is to do what we did when Keegan left. Protest and boycott a game, then another until he gets the message loud and clear. It will be ugly. But surely for a couple of weeks of ugliness, we will be saving the club for the next 5 years and beyond....

        We made the mistake of not carrying on the protest againt Fat Ash and let him sneak his way intothe stadium again....Kick Him Out. Its our club, not his.
      1. Mrtiote's Avatar
        Mrtiote -
        Quote Originally Posted by Why aye Cabaye View Post
        The annoying thing isn't where the money has been spent, we've made some good signings for sensible money and the undersoil heating at the training ground was essential. The thing I find annoying is the arguement that we've spent all this money so only have a small amount remaining for a striker. So Ashley is virtually saying that if we hadn't got the £35m for Carroll then there would be virtually no money available for anything, maybe about £7-8m for transfers and that would be it.
        Exactly we should be signing players up regardless of the Carroll sale. They are in fact saying the Carroll money is being used to run the entire club.
      1. NufcBano's Avatar
        NufcBano -
        Yea I missed that point out from the original article of, we wud have had a modest amount of money to spend this summer anyway regardless of Carroll.

        So like I say. £40mil plus to spend with no down side, whatsoever. But nothing has been done. Underground heating at the training is paid for by the Income of £100m we make every year..........NOT transfer fees.
      1. Ameobi's Apprentice's Avatar
        Ameobi's Apprentice -
        I think it's clear that Ashley doesn't want to spend big, but still wants us to achieve alot of success, remind you of another club? Arsenal have done the exact same thing and have had good success from it, yes they may be ****e at trying to winning the league these days, but they're always in the champions league and finishing top 4. I would love us to spend a large chunk of the 35 million but it's not going to happen as much as i want it to.
        We have some decent players in our squad already, managing to get Cabaye from Lille where he captained them to winning Ligue 1, getting Demba Ba on a free from Westham, bringing Marveaux in on a free from Rennes and we already have quality players in: Coloccini, Enrique, Barton, Jonas, Tiote and Ben Arfa. I think with one or two more signings, hopefully bought from the 35 million, i think we could possibly push or the Europa League and have a decent cup run.

        Would you prefer to be Man City? Buying players for outrages fees and then paying them ridiculous wages, i don't, i want the club to reach the top 4 by hardwork and have a group of players who want to be here for the club and not the money. Ashley is, as most know, a ****. But football is now a business and with all the new rules coming into football we will be better off with the way our club is being run. Everyone always says the foundations are there for the club to be in europe and to be challenging for the premier league.

        Maybes in a few years we will all be in SJP cheering the lads on as they defeat Barcelona and have reached the champions league final..

        I didn't read the article fully either, i just wanted to have my say
      1. Mr. Bump's Avatar
        Mr. Bump -
        Quote Originally Posted by Heavy Metal Toon View Post
        What a ****ing stupid thing to suggest. How will that make him **** off? The only way he'll **** off is if he gets a good offer for the club from a buyer, and the only way that will happen is if the club is making a good profit, and boycotting matches wont help us -

        What a ****ing stupid way to reply, try not to be an arsehole.
      1. Le Beatski's Avatar
        Le Beatski -
        Quote Originally Posted by Geordie Jonas View Post

        I didn't read the article fully either, i just wanted to have my say
        a lot of it is just whinging for the sake of it. eg: "French fancies who come december might not like the cold "
      1. G4rdToonArmy's Avatar
        G4rdToonArmy -
        All been done before:
        99.99999%* of people want FMA out
        Boycotting the stadium is ridiculous
        Money has been spent JUST NOT HOW YOU WANTED IT TO BE SPENT stop going on about it!!!
        Joey and Jose should be signed up but if adequete replacements are bought in thats fine.
        We have only lost Andy C, and Super Kev and signed 4 player SO FAR (the squad is stronger IMO)


        *I may have missed 0.00001% of people out of my equation
      1. Cal.'s Avatar
        Cal. -
        Quote Originally Posted by NufcBano View Post
        Bring in at least 2/3 quality proven strikers.
        By all means bring in the signings we have made so far, seeing as they haven't cost out! To add to this, a proven Premier League midfielder or two to bolster our engine room.
        Bring in a left back, a centre back and right back at least, as our defence was our weakest area last season.
        Sell Jose Enrique for at least £10 mill to whoever wants him, but try and sell him to a foreign team. Maybe even Jonas aswell for about 7-10mil to a foreign team.
        Sell other deadwood to reduce wage bill and bring in modest fees to add to transfer kitty. ie Smith, Ranger, Best, Lovenkrands, Xisco, Routledge etc.

        At the end of August Newcastle should have a quality 25man squad, with depth, that can genuinely challenge the top 6.
        Without breaking the bank as the Carroll, Nolan, Enrique, Deadwood money will more than cover the expenditure on Quality and Quantity.
        If only it was that easy to offload the deadwood and replace them with quality. The deadwood tend to have at least a year or two on their lucrative contracts, which they would rather sit here and collect than go elsewhere and earn a pittance by comparison, and that's presuming that anyone would come in and offer money to any of them. The deadwood that aren't on lucrative contracts, so Best and Routledge, maybe Ranger (but he has a 5 year contract), don't necessarily need to be offloaded if their wages are as low as believed. Best is useful back-up, but I would sell Routledge if this £2m offer is true.

        José has made it clear he wants out, greatly weakening our negotiation position over any transfer, especially when combined with him having just a 11 months left on his contract. Why sell Jonas? While he doesn't directly rack up goals and assists he is still a very useful player for the team; he defends well, brings the ball out from defence and brings it up the pitch for an attack, runs at defenders and terrorises them, and earns lots of free-kicks in attacking areas.

        As for buying your 2-3 'quality, proven' strikers, 1-2 PL midfielders, LB, CB and RB, a transfer isn't as simple as throwing money at people (unless you're Man City, even then it doesn't always work), we're a recently promoted club who finished mid-table in their first season back in the Premiership and are living off of our reputation from 10 years ago. Not to mention that the players you've mentioned would be very expensive, and you're expecting another 6-8 to be brought in? So say £12m per striker, £8m per midfielder, £4m for defender (very conservative figures imo for the calibre you want), that's £44m-£62m you want us to spend on transfer fees alone to completely rebuild our squad...