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Off Topic Grandstand refurbishment and safe standing.

Discussion in 'Plymouth' started by notDistantGreen, Jun 29, 2017.

  1. notDistantGreen

    notDistantGreen Well-Known Member

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    I thought we had a topic on this but I can't find it on my phone.

    I read that safe standing areas may come as Phase 2 when the corners are filled in. That implies they'll be in the corners. That doesn't make sense to me. The areas where people stand now are unsurprisingly in the middle blocks of the Devonport End and in the away section of the Barn Park End. Surely it makes better sense to put safe standing there and install seats in the corners.

    It's a pity we don't have anyone here with connections with the club. Oh, wait.....
     
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  2. sensiblegreeny

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    I'm a season ticket holder and therefore a member so can I help you with anything?

    Just re-read your post to check the problem. What's your problem? Always bleddy moaning you people so just let them get on with it and cut out the bleddy questioning for christ sake.........<steam>

    There was that any good?
     
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  3. notDistantGreen

    notDistantGreen Well-Known Member

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    Excellent rant.
     
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  4. sensiblegreeny

    sensiblegreeny Well-Known Member
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    Thank you. To be honest if they can return the whole of the standing part to standing then I know what I would choose. Low maintenance and a whole lot cheaper to put back in than seats. There are plenty of people out there who actually prefer to stand and watch football. I am one of them although I doubt I could persuade my mates and son to change back now. Lazy bleddy youngsters.
     
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  5. lyndhurstgreen

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    Whether it is behind the goal or in the corners, I still think so called safe standing is a very long way off, especially at HP. If standing does become legal I think (but don't know) that the location would have to be decided at the time. Using the corners for anything remains an unfunded aspiration so I think it is almost impossible to rule anything in or out. fwiw I think that it would be better to install behind the goals, but what do I know!
     
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  6. notDistantGreen

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    Thanks Lyndhurst, I appreciate Phase 2 is a way away yet.

    You see my point though: the club have stated that standing in seated areas is unsafe, particularly above the stair wells. In practical terms, you'd need an army of stewards and a division of police to stop it. If (if) safe standing is put in the wrong place, we'll end up with people who want to sit down having to stand up and those who want to stand continuing to do so exactly where they do now but where it's unsafe.
     
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    notDistantGreen Well-Known Member

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    PS The other thing I was wondering about was that, given the current rule is that seated areas can't be turned back into standing, the corners might be exempt because they've never had seats in them. For the reasons above, that's not a good reason to put safe standing there now.
     
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  8. Plymborn

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    Isn't there talk of a trial somewhere...in the midlands....was it West Brom ?
     
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  9. lyndhurstgreen

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    That's a good point actually. The area above the vomitories (not sure on the spelling or why they are called that)/above the stair wells are already a focus of safety concerns with all seater stadia (esp when people stand up to celebrate/inappropriately). I suspect that IF safe standing was ever allowed there would be a whole host of 'rules' to go with it. It is likely that H&S will have more of a say in the location than the supporters/club officials/owners.
     
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    notDistantGreen Well-Known Member

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    Vomitories are obviously where the fans exit!

    Originally, the word comes from double handed sinks into which the Romans emptied excess wine.
     
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  11. sensiblegreeny

    sensiblegreeny Well-Known Member
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    Christ have the clubs chucked out?????? There's you and lyndie posting at gone midnight. <cheers>

    Bacon sarnie anyone?
     
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    theatre-15-638.jpg I thought it was were you throw up after a Ginster's
     
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  13. sensiblegreeny

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    It's not the best descriptive word is it...........:emoticon-0119-puke:
     
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  14. Plymborn

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    Vomitories.....isn't that what you do after being made to eat a Ginsters....:eek:.
     
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