Pleased for Hughton, hope he does well in the Premier league. He gave us some good times and that's what I choose to remember, plus technically he didn't relegate us, we were 5pts clear when he was sacked
I´ ve made the points I wanted to make Melchy, and haven´t much to add. As gandy implied, Hughton is the one who's come out smelling of roses, not NCFC, he´s gone on to better things, we´ve gone on to worse. Make of that what you will, but that suggests strongly to me, that any fault/weakness in the chemistry between Hughton and Norwich lies (or rather lay) just as much, if not more, with Norwich City and its fans, than with Hughton himself. Especially when you consider that he has had nothing but success, everywhere else he has been. As regards to your Roeder question. I think I probably would, yes, if for no other reason, than pure courtesy. It´s got nothing to do with whether he dished up good or bad football, I´d do the same for Gunn and Adams too, who were also less than average. They were all part of our history, and like every other manager we´ve had, they did their bit, however small that might be. Certainly far less childish and petty than hurling abuse at them.
This thread sums up Football generally. The only people who have real knowledge of the game are those who have earned a living out of it for many years. Fans, like me, have strong opinions but know sod all about the game. The facts, record and the opinion of those ' in the know ' state that Hughton is a good Manager so he is - end of story! I don't like Allardyce and many fans don't rate Pulis and didn't like Ferguson but the facts, record and opinion of 'those in the know' state that they are - end of story! I recall that fan pressure led to the sacking of Hughton and the appointments of Adams and Gunn - sums it up nicely.
I recall that fan pressure came because he was not cutting the mustard. No doubt he is a decent manager, but he has a long way to go before he should be mentioned in the same breath as; Allardyce, Pulis or even more so Ferguson. He has had roughly 2 1/4 seasons in charge in the top flight and been sacked twice. Lots left to prove before he can be thought of as better than a good second tier manager. And fan pressure didn't ask for the appointment of Gunn or Adams, meerly that their incompetent predacessors got removed. Our board prove that you can be involved in football for 20 odd years and still seemingly know next to feck all. On the other hand, I think you sell many fans short or thankfully not all fans are like you! Many fans through their passion for the game know a lot about football. Many have played it for years, many have read tactical analysis and coaching material. Some have managed or coached amateur teams and all of these people can have plenty of real insight. Lets not ignore the jobs for the boys culture within football, I would contend that there are plenty of not entirely brilliant people within football making a living out of it who really could be replaced by your slightly more educated fan and things would improve. I'm not saying I am one of those, I'm more like you, I'll just shout my load ill informed opinion loader if challenged! Bah!
Yes,1950, 'fan pressure' has a lot to answer for, but that 'pales into insignificance' when compared to what foreign owners do!!! Look at Birmingham - they were comfortably in the top 6 i believe, the owners decided to sack Rowett and now they are in SERIOUS danger of relegation. Also, look at Wolves - a Chinese takeaway/takeover, spent a small fortune (for a Championship club) on a striker and have only just avoided relegation. For every Leicester, there's a Blackburn/Portsmouth!!
Couldn't agree more which is why I always say to the ' get rid of Delia lot ' - be careful what you wish for!
All Managers get the sack including those mentioned in my post - usually the result of owners and/or fans who expect too much too quick. When I said involved in the game I meant 20 years or so as a player/Manager/Coach in the professional game not the amateur game or, as with our Board, spectating. If an enthusiastic DIY friend tells you to do a job one way and A builder with 30 years experience advises you to do something completely different who do you believe?
Actually i would consider both opinions and sense check it against literature. Just because someone has thirty years experience it doesn't make them right. Experience can breed an element of comfort and complacency, I work with people who think that because they were taught something 25 years ago that it must still be right and the best way even resisting when presented evidence to the contrary. An enthusiastic DIYer is at least as likely to do diligent research on the most current techniques. All I'm saying is that an enthusiastic ameteur can be the equal of a professional, may be not the top professionals, but many staid ones or ones who were hired because they once pulled on the clubs shirt. Bah!