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Match Day Thread General Election 8 June

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  1. ForestHillBilly

    ForestHillBilly Well-Known Member

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    Just to clarify, Jeremy wouldn't use them, but his defense secretary would
     
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    As a NATO member, who would attack us if we didn't have nuclear weapons?

    The national security strategy outlined International terrorism, climate change (which doesn't exist <doh>) and cyber-crime as tier 1 threats to this country. I don't think nuclear weapons are a deterrence to any of those.
     
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    Who could attack us -

    Putin
    The Chinese
    Kim Jong Pong
    Nicola Sturgeon

    It's a dangerous world Don.
     
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    @DonCorleone President Charles de Gaulle pulled France out of Nato's integrated military command in 1966, saying it undermined France's sovereignty.. they rejoined in 2009 but it was a very close decision ..... France have nuclear weapons so are you saying that France should have them but the UK should not?

    I do not trust the French... they are as bad as the Belgians
     
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    What would be the reasoning for Putin or the Chinese to attack the UK?

    Yes it's a dangerous world, but statistically the safest it's ever been :azn:
     
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    I don't think any country should have nuclear weapons, but If France want to continue having nuclear weapons, that is their prerogative.

    I think we could spend the money more wisely.
     
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    A Country's first priority is to defend its people <ok>
     
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    Which is why Corbyn is a big no-no

    I can feel @DonCorleone moving steadily into our camp - I have plenty of new blue rosettes going spare.
     
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    How are we defenceless without nuclear weapons? We would be under the NATO nuclear umbrella.

    If Russia or China decided to attack us (lol) would we just nuke them and end the world? Due to budget and personnel cuts, we wouldn't be able to defend ourselves conventionally.
     
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    You have got buyers guilt Don <cheers>

    You don't need to justify coming over to our side. Your 6 bedroom mansion in Kent would be at risk under Corbyn.
     
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    You don't have one coherent argument for renewing trident.

    It's also in West Sussex :afro:
     
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    All interviews with Tories contain the word Leadership repeated at 15 second intervals
     
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    So Don, you would be happy to be defended by nuclear weapons as long as we do not have to pay for them? Isn't that Germany's argument for only spending 0.8% of GDP on it's defence... why should Germany spend money on defending Germany when the UK & USA will do it for them!
     
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    I didn't say that.

    You say we need them to defend ourselves, I pointed out why that is not true.
     
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    Our NATO commitment is 2% of our GDP on defense. Is it better spent on Trident or elsewhere? Considering how the government has run down our armed forces, I suspect elsewhere.
     
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    seems as if Teresa May is getting a very easy ride on here. For someone who was pro remain right up to the moment she took over at number 10, she has been very gung ho about her decision to make a 'hard' brexit. She was also adamant she wouldn't be calling an election, right up until she changed her mind and decided she would have one after all. Vaguely makes you wonder what else she will change her mind about on a whim.
    I also caught in the Spanish press that while Spain managed to close 2016 with a whopping 4.3% of PIB public deficit, the worst in the EU, it was closely followed by the UK. Given they are both prone to huge austerity drives, I seem to be caught between two fairly dire economies. I'll be interested to see what Teresa does with taxes as the deficit continues to rise.
     
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    I do have a coherent argument, but I just can't be arsed. I know we are going to win anyway <cracker>
     
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    The Prime Minister had just announced that all Spanish based ex-pats must remain on the Costa del Sol doing penitence until 2050.
     
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    Yes you did..
     
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    No she didn't...
     
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