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Who should be Englands new manager ?

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  1. Plymborn

    Plymborn Well-Known Member
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    All the names mentioned so far are a continuation of the same......certainly don't want a German in charge......what do you lot think.
     
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    I know they are going to be looking at this and a decision is going to be made sooner rather than later but from my point of view I find it hard to even care who it is. I just think there comes a point when disappointment follows disappointment before it is taken as the norm and there are no longer expectations at all. Bit like supporting Argyle really when you think about it. My answer would be to give it to a young manager with little or no experience. Give them their head and let them do what they think themselves. Keep the press out of it and make it clear to the "super stars" that they either toe the line or feck off. How could it be any worse.
     
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    Bournemouths Eddie Howe is the obvious young manager.....but would it ruin his future career if he took it on.....probably.
     
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    We have had a germane in charge for years.. that is the EU for you..
     
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    I think Sam Arradite is being talked to at The FA.. Well that will be even more boring.. scrap the england team.. why bother and waste money.. We are out of EU so why bother competing as we never stay in the competitions long enough..
     
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    Not for much longer Joe.....:emoticon-0169-dance.....:rolleyes:.
     
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    We Have Mrs may now.. <party> <party>
     
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    Gary Neville with SAF as part time director of football.
     
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    Fletcher/Sheridan can't do any worse than the previous Shower! :biggrin:
     
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    Anyone have a view on Sam Allardyce becoming England's new manager.....surprising how few English managers there are to choose from is my thought at present......rumour was that Arsene Wenger was first choice.
     
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    I find it hard to even care who the manager is to be fair. I'm fed up of the build up and let down everytime so whoever is manager of the day doesn't even matter to me anymore.
     
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    At least Allardyce clearly wants it. Will he feel the same in 2 years after the players have let him down at the World Cup.....
     
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    Ironical really isn't it.....Allardyce as a manager has never won anything......how can he be expected to take England to the promised land.
     
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    Don't think that matters at all. Sir Alf of the Ramsay only won one top league title prior to becoming England Manager. Hardly a huge success story in the Ferguson kind of story. I don't care if Ferguson himself took over, he wouldn't lead England to the "promised land" either.
     
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    Allardyce has though repeatedly saved struggling teams. Given the supposed talent England have, they qualify as a struggling team. A system, a settled team within it and some defensive organisation are basics which have been lacking for along time.
     
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    He will piss through the qualifying as we always do.. then get to the finals.. bang .. back home early.. I cant see that changing to much.. blame is with the players... does not matter who manages them..
     
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    So Sam Allardyce has picked his first England squad for Sundays World Cup qualifier against Slovakia.

    Only one new name....Michail Antonio of West Ham...who I must admit I've never heard of.

    Left out is Marcus Rashford who he prefers to leave in the U21 team to gain experience, Jack Wilshere has been left out because of lack of first team football and Arsenal are considering letting him go out on loan to get first team football as well. Joe Hart has been told that he needs to be playing first team football soon to be considered being picked in the future.

    Smalling is in although he hasn't played to much first team football and Phil Jagielka has been brought back....both our in because of a lack of alternative choices.

    Really there isn't to much new to get you excited about with this squad......looks like Rooney will be playing up front and still be captain so just lots of the same which was pretty grotty.
     
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    Unreasonable to expect wholesale changes to the team that played in France - who else is there?

    Antonio plays right sided wide midfield or as an attacking full back - he scored a far post header against Man City at the weekend. Indeed he has a decent scoring record for someone who doesn't play as an out-and-out striker - 51 goals in 237 league appearances at all levels.

    Allardyce has said that he wants players who are turning out regularly for their clubs. We've got Clyne, Rose, Shaw and Walker in this squad who do just that as full backs so presumably if Antonio plays anywhere, it'll be wide midfield. The squad includes a revitalised Raheen Sterling who's a first pick at Man City again (scored 2 against West Ham) and will surely play. The question is, is Antonio a better player than Lallana or Walcott just because he plays regularly for West Ham and they've tended to flit in and out of their club sides? This could be a recurring theme under Allardyce.

    It's a classic that Rashford's been left out now. I think he's going to be a fine player but it was to soon for him to go with the senior squad to France. He'd have been better off going with Gareth Southgate to the U21 tournament a few weeks earlier when he'd have got proper experience of taking part in an overseas competition as a leading player, not a sideshow in the media frenzy that is the England senior squad. Let's hope Allardyce takes this line with any other best-thing-since-sliced-bread youngsters that come along.
     
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    I've always believed that if you are good enough you ae old enough in football. I can't get too excited about England at the minute. Too close to the European debacle. I'll be honst with you in that I don't expect Sam to be England Manager for long. Not fashionable with the millionaires on the pitch.
     
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    Not so sure about growing teenagers being thrown into the ...'if your good enough your old enough' pot sensible.

    I will never forget the 'wonder' goal that Michael Owen scored against Argentina.....you had the feeling a line of battle tanks across the argyies goal line had no chance of stopping him scoring.

    He played every game for Liverpool without any rest.....and he was good.....BUT as the years went by his body couldn't cope with it anymore......I feel he was totally burnt out far to soon.....and was a shadow of the player he was when he went to Man U.
     
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