Nobody ever suggested that things were not difficult willis. It has been suggested that Scotland was a hostile place. The social section of that wikipedia entry details difficulties up to the 1840's. The blight was at its worst in 1847 and it was following that when mass immigration took place. Imagine all these low paid workers competing for jobs with folk who came from a foreign land, funny beliefs and prepared to do your job for less than you. You'd be hostile too. You'd demonise them and try and try and protect your right to your job....Right?Originally Posted by MD 20/20
That is all that article says. That frames where Celtic FC come from.
“Some came from a land beyond the sea from Boston and New York, but the boys who beat the Black and Tans were the boys from the County Cork"
what are you talking about? Do you think I hold a grudge because I am historically literate?
“Some came from a land beyond the sea from Boston and New York, but the boys who beat the Black and Tans were the boys from the County Cork"
No quite simply because this is 2012, they were idiots then and people who believe its the polish who are out to get the Scottish now are idiots now, the era doesn't matter.
If the Scottish can get over how bad things where during that period of Glasgows history i don't understand what gives Irish the right to drag it on for centuries when the history books clearly suggest that all of Glasgows underclass suffered at some point or another, not just Irish Immigrants.
Pud feel free to delete my posts to remove clutter from this thread.
Nobody is dragging anything on. The article is about the history of the Celtic boardroom. The article accurately frames the situation in Glasgow at the time. The Irish community was met with hostility. History books will tell you this. You refute this and I don't know why. Saying "everyone had it rough" does not explain it.
“Some came from a land beyond the sea from Boston and New York, but the boys who beat the Black and Tans were the boys from the County Cork"
I'm not sure of the reason but at least we agree you hold a grudge
It's what Jesus would have said.
We dont agree.
“Some came from a land beyond the sea from Boston and New York, but the boys who beat the Black and Tans were the boys from the County Cork"
Rebelbhoy seems some of the bears are having a difficulty with the truth. They are trying to gang up on you.
It is the case that they cannot stand the truth.
I suppose the fact that the Shipyards in Govan and Belfast were staffed by 95% Protestant and if a Catholic managed to
get a job in either the existing workers made it so difficult that often the Catholic was forced out. This helped to ensure
conditions were eased considerable for Protestants.
WTF? All this because they used the word hostile??
If you read the whole article you'd see it was about Celtic moving from a charity based local club to being over run with businessmen looking to make a quick pound.
What part of my original post gave any indication that i read any of the article, in fact I'm fairly sure i stated somewhere along the lines that the i never read the article and had no intention of reading it I WAS talking about their inaccurate history page.
WAS being past tense
Last edited by MD 20/20 full stop; 17/01/2012 at 01:16 PM.
And you now know that your assertion was wrong, don't you Willis?
“Some came from a land beyond the sea from Boston and New York, but the boys who beat the Black and Tans were the boys from the County Cork"
No we concluded that you know next to nothing about Scottish history, don't be sad though you know enough about Irelands.
did we conclude that?
You posting links to things that are totally irrelevant aids this conclusion in what way?
Come on Willis. Stop being stupid.
“Some came from a land beyond the sea from Boston and New York, but the boys who beat the Black and Tans were the boys from the County Cork"
Fair enough...............never heard anybody argue that Glasgow isn't hostile to be honest
are you now suggesting that you made yourself look stupid so you could embroil yourself in an argument with me?
How am i supposed to discern when you are genuinely being stupid from when you are just pretending to be stupid?
“Some came from a land beyond the sea from Boston and New York, but the boys who beat the Black and Tans were the boys from the County Cork"
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Last edited by RebelBhoy; 26/01/2012 at 10:51 PM.
“Some came from a land beyond the sea from Boston and New York, but the boys who beat the Black and Tans were the boys from the County Cork"
May as well unsticky this Pud, nothing has come for a while.
“Some came from a land beyond the sea from Boston and New York, but the boys who beat the Black and Tans were the boys from the County Cork"
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