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    I'm struggling to understand why Whyte is the fall guy.
    "This has to be said about Rangers, as a Scottish football club they are a permanent embarrassment and an occasional disgrace. This country would be a better place if Rangers did not exist"

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    Quote Originally Posted by JiffyBurns67 View Post
    Roughly 95% of my office will. Might wear an all black suit just to fit in.
    My office is hoaching.

    There's a guy sits a couple of desks down from me - utter cock - was going round telling all his pals to forward on the FF email to the polis about Lennon (he also claimed recently that the BBC were trying to blame Rangers fans for Saddam Hussein ). About two months ago, the **** was absolutely full of himself shouting pish about Celtic for most of the working day (I keep it down in work - do it on here except the cool Rangers fan that sits across from me - he's brand new).

    Anyway, this ugly, bigot fannybaws has been hiding all day - if Celtic ever drop points, he's up at my desk right away - him and his usual circle of muppets (who were BEELIN, PROPER BEELIN about Samaras showing Beastly the scoreboard) were having a wee huddle this morning with ashen faces.

    For him, and for every ****wit like him, I hope it's sinking in now after the years of ostriching.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SaTan's Evil Twin View Post
    I'm struggling to understand why Whyte is the fall guy.
    He shares some of the blame but the bulk lies with Minty Moneybags and his colossal wonderdome.
    It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trevor Santos View Post
    that wasnt so hard was it?
    I'm always hard
    It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into.

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    sounds like Bib Fortuna gets bullied at work.......
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trevor Santos View Post
    sounds like Bib Fortuna gets bullied at work.......
    I'm the office wide-o.

    I work in the Edinburgh office but I'm usually in the Glasgow callcentre cos it's easier.

    I outrank the lot of them
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    Quote Originally Posted by DevAdvocate View Post
    He shares some of the blame but the bulk lies with Minty Moneybags and his colossal wonderdome.
    Yeah, but that doesn't make him a fall guy. In my opinion Whyte saw a business opportunity with Rangers and is ploughing ahead with it. He's a notorious asset stripper and, as the BBC doc showed, doesn't give a **** about employees.

    If anyone's the fall guy(s) it'll be the poor mugs left behind to pick up the pieces once Whyte and his circle of vultures (don't forget Ellis) have finished picking over the corpse of the club.
    "This has to be said about Rangers, as a Scottish football club they are a permanent embarrassment and an occasional disgrace. This country would be a better place if Rangers did not exist"

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    Most of the office here seem to be going about the demise of their beloved club with a wonderful air of dignity about them. Very admirable. Bit like a funeral, where the smell of death hangs in the air and the loss is so great everyone acts incredibly solemn.

    I'm just sitting back and wallowing in it all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SaTan's Evil Twin View Post
    I'm struggling to understand why Whyte is the fall guy.
    Because he'll walk away a richer man than when he started. The last crowd walked/wheeled away with good intentions.

    I agree with much of what Dev says. I pretty much said the same thing on another thread.

    I differ on the newco though. That is not Rangers. That'll be a Rangers shaped object supported by the same dopey bigots......but it ain't Rangers. The other thing I differ on is believing whyte for even a fraction of a second.

    Other than that, I agree totally, including where the new club should start from. If of course there is a will to start an entirely new club.
    “Some came from a land beyond the sea from Boston and New York, but the boys who beat the Black and Tans were the boys from the County Cork"

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    Quote Originally Posted by RebelBhoy View Post
    Because he'll walk away a richer man than when he started. The last crowd walked/wheeled away with good intentions.

    I agree with much of what Dev says. I pretty much said the same thing on another thread.

    I differ on the newco though. That is not Rangers. That'll be a Rangers shaped object supported by the same dopey bigots......but it ain't Rangers. The other thing I differ on is believing whyte for even a fraction of a second.

    Other than that, I agree totally, including where the new club should start from. If of course there is a will to start an entirely new club.
    That isn't a fall guy.
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    Oh I see the angle you are coming from.

    He is the fall guy in terms of the public perception of who has ****ed the Huns.

    That is what I meant. Ideally I suppose he'd make an absolute **** of it. The taxman establishes himself in top spot when money is doled out. The club deck debentures are guaranteed a share of the spoils. The Ticketus situation means the margins can't be that great. He said himself that he views a restructured Huns as a profitable entity......hard to see how. I am sure the self made Billionaire knows what he's doing.

    I'm not adverse to him making a couple of pounds out of their demise. It'd be funnier if he didn't, but you can't have it all.
    “Some came from a land beyond the sea from Boston and New York, but the boys who beat the Black and Tans were the boys from the County Cork"

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    Good post Dev - most of with which I agree. Two things though:

    -"Murray must have been aware that Whyte was no more the saviour of Rangers than I am." I do wonder about that given that it appeared that there was at least one other buyout offer considered - so why did Murray plump for Whyte's 'offer'?


    -"it may not be fair on the real Rangers fans, but life seldom is fair is it?" I hope I don't get slaughtered for this but I do think that there are decent Ranger's fans (a few, at least, must exist by the law of averages -lol!) who have been very badly betrayed but as you say, 'Rangers' will probably survive in some form or other - so unless the decent fans' enjoyment of football has been totally destroyed, they will still have a team to support.
    Last edited by EspaniaCelt; 01/02/2012 at 08:22 PM.

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    Will you be recording the audiobook yourself Dev, or will you be getting Stephen Fry in to do it?

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    good article dev, liked the summation for trev as well

    Theres one thing that , surprisingly hasnt come up.....yet.
    In the unlikely scenario that a reformed/reconstituted rangers do have to join the lower reaches of the league .....how long until the cries for celtic to join the epl - due to lack of competition begin ?
    Mercy, saints alive, it looks like we got us a Convoy

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    The clouds are already gathering in that regard. I am not that fussed.

    I'd be disappointed if the club didn't explore any and every opportunity available.
    “Some came from a land beyond the sea from Boston and New York, but the boys who beat the Black and Tans were the boys from the County Cork"

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    Quote Originally Posted by SaTan's Evil Twin View Post
    I'm struggling to understand why Whyte is the fall guy.
    It was a turn of phrase, I should have said he's far less guilty than Minty.
    It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into.

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    Murray spent too much money, Whyte didn't have much money but tried to pull off a bit of a coup in buying Rangers with their own money (Glazier style), Ally called his financial bluff by being ****ed out of Europe.
    go away

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    Quote Originally Posted by RebelBhoy View Post
    The clouds are already gathering in that regard. I am not that fussed.

    I'd be disappointed if the club didn't explore any and every opportunity available.
    Im not sure how I feel about that prospect.......perhaps we need to get down to a debate on just how well celtic would do in england


    I`d be looking forward to some big derby matches with southampton right enough.
    Mercy, saints alive, it looks like we got us a Convoy

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    I would think that Lawwell and the other high-ranking board members would have already started putting feelers out for our eventual inauguration in to the English leagues. Be that the lower echelons then so be it, we'll have won the EPL within 10 years either way, nae doubts about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MalteseMick View Post
    Murray spent too much money, Whyte didn't have much money but tried to pull off a bit of a coup in buying Rangers with their own money (Glazier style), Ally called his financial bluff by being ****ed out of Europe.
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