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    Quote Originally Posted by daniloelnino View Post
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/foo...=feeds-newsxml


    Daily Mail trying to start a fight as usual.
    Apparently we are in a row?
    Cant see the problem danilo if a couple of our lads were bought in,they met the correct criteria for the game and were not over the allowed age.

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    The press can't talk about us now without some snide comment. The reference to "substantial fees" is utterly irrelevant but they cannot bring themselves to admit we may be right over anything.
    I'm not normally given to paranoia, but I'm now beginning to develop a siege mentality.

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    Quote Originally Posted by saintanton View Post
    The press can't talk about us now without some snide comment. The reference to "substantial fees" is utterly irrelevant but they cannot bring themselves to admit we may be right over anything.
    I'm not normally given to paranoia, but I'm now beginning to develop a siege mentality.
    "Substantial fees" is a euphemism for "foreigners".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Davidako View Post
    "Substantial fees" is a euphemism for "foreigners".
    Any club(apart from Man Utd)from outside of London are classed as "foreigners" by the Fleet Street hacks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chirpy rides again View Post
    I believe he comes from a cultulre where racism is somehow accepted. That makes the society (and him) racist. Unfortunately that cannot really be proved, but he was absolutely guilty of using racist language, which in our society is illegal and immoral. I believe the club's reaction was beyond the pale and while an apology would probably have seen the ban maybe cut to 4 games the hopeless PR campaign by Dalglish and the club did one of the great clubs of English and European football a LOT of damage.

    I can understand the viewpoint you hold, its pretty reasonable.

    I don't agree with the whole of it, however.

    Firstly, who defines 'racism'? What is racism? Is racism something held in the intent of the speaker, or in the understanding of the listener? If you say something without intent to offend that contains an element of someone's descriptive makeup, is it racism?

    Furthermore, what is a 'race'? In the 1930's, Eugenics was a pseudoscience and one that was used to 'justify' the appalling treatment meted out to the Jews and the Slavs by the Germans (who it was claimed by the Nazis were Aryan). Modern science has pretty much eradicated this gross misapplication of science, and with it the entire concept of 'race'. We are all of the Human Race.

    Therefore, is not the mention of a person's skin colour no better or worse than mentioning hair or eye colour? I've yet to hear about a prosecution about a ginger joke. Blondes are still the butt of jokes for being dumb blondes. What makes skin colour so special that it is a complete taboo? Even to mention? As far as I could read in the evidence, Suarez never called him a black ****, or black bastard - would this even be an issue if he'd been called a ginger tosser or a blonde bint?

    As far as calling an entire society racist, I think that is wrong, and stinks of cultural imperialism. Why are we so right to have a massive hang-up on the colour of someone's skin, but hair colour is fair game? In Uruguay, any physical feature appears to be fair game - you could almost call it race-blind, as someone with black hair is almost as likely to be called 'black' as someone with African roots. I certainly do not believe that anyone who was truly racist would have come out with the tirade Suarez was supposed to have come out with. Racists are insidious and secretive; they wouldn't risk having a 'handbags' job in a crowded penalty area, they'd just spend the entire afternoon having sly digs...

    As for thinking that the FA would have cut the punishment for an 'apology', its laughable. That would never happen, as it wouldn't suit the FA's political 'Kick out Racism' campaign or its nose-thumbing to Slack Bladder.
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    Quote Originally Posted by saintanton View Post
    The press can't talk about us now without some snide comment. The reference to "substantial fees" is utterly irrelevant but they cannot bring themselves to admit we may be right over anything.
    I'm not normally given to paranoia, but I'm now beginning to develop a siege mentality.
    Quote Originally Posted by Davidako View Post
    "Substantial fees" is a euphemism for "foreigners".
    I've tried to find a copy of the eligibility rules on the NextGen website, but no luck.

    All I can find is the following on Wikipedia:-
    Teams participating in the NextGen series are limited to a squad size of no more than eighteen members. There is an age limit of 18 on players players participating in the competition. However, each club has the option of having three players who are one year older than this, although only a maximum of two of them are allowed to be on the pitch at any one time.
    No mention about fees being paid in the rules...

    I can only presume that the Spuds had three overage players on the pitch at the same time...
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    I don't know that much about the eligibility rules either St.
    I felt that the journo was just having a dig by suggesting that we'd somehow gone against the "spirit" of the competition as opposed to breaking its laws.

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    Ajax in the semi final they beat Barca 3-0

    http://www.liverpoolfc.tv/news/lates...-in-semi-final

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rubadub View Post
    Ajax in the semi final they beat Barca 3-0

    http://www.liverpoolfc.tv/news/lates...-in-semi-final
    Looking forward to it, looking forward to watching Sterling play again.

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    the club have the following message on the baord.

    http://www.liverpoolfc.tv/news/lates...jax-at-anfield

    so tottenham had to withdraw from the tournament officially... and i suppose rightly so, we ought to have beaten them but didn't....

    i'm not sure how this will go but its a home tie so it'd be strange and no doubt tottenham would be raging if we went and won this after scraping through the group and losing in the qf...... Not sure i want us to win it...
    "If that's the level they expect this football club to play at, they won't be here long." Kenny Dalglish 21/1/2012.

    "Attitudes do need to change, That team was the best 11 LFC could play IMO, only lucas and suarez to come in? Terrible attitude" MITO 22/1/2012

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    Quote Originally Posted by saintanton View Post
    The press can't talk about us now without some snide comment. The reference to "substantial fees" is utterly irrelevant but they cannot bring themselves to admit we may be right over anything.
    I'm not normally given to paranoia, but I'm now beginning to develop a siege mentality.
    With you on that saint. It's getting ludicrous, frankly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by moreinjuredthanowen View Post
    the club have the following message on the baord.

    http://www.liverpoolfc.tv/news/lates...jax-at-anfield

    so tottenham had to withdraw from the tournament officially... and i suppose rightly so, we ought to have beaten them but didn't....

    i'm not sure how this will go but its a home tie so it'd be strange and no doubt tottenham would be raging if we went and won this after scraping through the group and losing in the qf...... Not sure i want us to win it...

    Spuds have only got themselves to blame though, its not like we appealed andd got them thrown out. Although as has been pointed out by others I am sure the media would make hay with it.
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    Personally you cant be racist to someone from a different country.

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    Some information about our semi-final with Ajax.

    Liverpool U19s will now contest their NextGen semi-final against Ajax on March 14 at Langtree Park in St Helens. Kick-off will be 7pm. The game was originally set to be played at Anfield.

    Tickets are available from the Anfield ticket office from Monday and from the St Helens ticket office on 01744 455052. You will also be able to pay at the turnstile.

    Tickets are £5 for adults and £2 for concessions. Supporters can park at Chalon Way, WA10 1BF.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris. View Post
    Some information about our semi-final with Ajax.
    Cheers for the info Chris might just go and watch the game

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris. View Post
    Some information about our semi-final with Ajax.
    The Saints new stadium is a great venue for the game.

    Might just venture up there meself.

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    It does look like a great little ground PMK.

    If it could attract a decent crowd, it should give the lads some great experience!

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    Yeah Chris,it was only opened about 3 weeks ago and your right we have a lot of support in the St Helens area.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Page_Moss_Kopite View Post
    Yeah Chris,it was only opened about 3 weeks ago and your right we have a lot of support in the St Helens area.
    Nice!

    Should be a great game as well with both sides playing some quality football and good players on both sides.


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    Borrell's NextGen pride.

    Rodolfo Borrell today spoke of his pride after his U19 squad finished third in the NextGen Series after an impressive 2-0 win over Marseille. The French outfit had beaten Barcelona amongst others in the group stages and lost to Inter Milan in the semi-final on Wednesday night.

    The third and fourth place play-off was played at Chelsea's Cobham training ground on Saturday, and the young Reds showed their undoubted qualities.

    Despite the absence of Raheem Sterling, who was about to make his first team debut against Wigan, goals from Michael Ngoo and Adam Morgan gave the Reds a deserved win.

    Jack Robinson also made a succesful return to action after injury and played for 65 minutes.

    The prolific Morgan took his tally to 17 goals for the season so far and he is well on course to finishing the campaign with 20 goals for the second season running at Academy level.

    Borrell told Liverpoolfc.tv: "It was a fantastic performance from the lads and I am proud of them.

    "It was a great way for us to bounce back from the Ajax game and it was a good way to end our first season in the NextGen Series. Marseille are a very good team who beat Barcelona in the group stages and our lads did extremely well.

    "As always our idea is to play in the right way and trying to win every game in the same style.

    "The NextGen Series has been a great experience for the lads. We have a young squad and we have played against strong and experienced teams.

    "They have a learned a lot for the future."
    Great to see the lads get 3rd place! It's been a good tournament for the lads and it's been good to watch. Hopefully we can do a bit better next season!

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    As if Inter Milan, the team we (Spurs) beat 7-1 away in the first game of the tournament, have gone on to win the thing! Shows how costly our admin cock up was to us!

    That means we were the only unbeaten team in the tournament..

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