Transfer Rumours transfer thread fact and fiction

How many upfront? On the wing?

 

The original quote was "game time" why does it matter which position?

 

He won't get much game time next season though! Jose will just buy a ready made striker, it's what he does. He doesn't bother being patient.

 

If he's playing in goal, it's no wonder he wants out...

 

Because Rashford won't be happy on the wing for long.

He can play upfront for Spurs though...learn from Poch, the better option for a young talented Englishman's career.

 

He has grown up as a winger and enjoys playing there
Still, like you say, once Kane moves in the summer you will need someone up front. Defoe will be looking to move if Sunderland go down

 

Where did you read that rumour, The Sun?

Not a trusted source, considering their best journalism comes from people hacking their site to report Rupert Murdoch has killed himself.

 

Never read any "newspaper" in years mate, sorry to burst that bubble

 

So you're saying that you just made that rumour up to try and divert from the real story?

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Nope, you need to get away from newspapers and join the new world

 

From the BBC...

The head of European football wants to change the transfer system to stop big clubs "hoarding" the best players.

Aleksander Ceferin, president of European football's governing body Uefa, says a "luxury tax" on rich clubs and squad limits could also help to stop elite clubs dominating the game.

He said the "excessive concentration of talent with a few teams" had to change.

"Uefa has a duty to protect the whole of football and not just the elite," Ceferin told a conference in Lisbon.

He'll have to learn that before making such Trotskyite pronouncements that he needs to check with clubs such as Chelsea [36 players out on loan] or Juventus [over 50 players on loan]. This bloke can't be allowed to restrict the freedom of these clubs to dominate football.

 

They're hoarding the best players yet they are all out on loan meaning other clubs are getting the use of them?
Sounds like they are doing a great job of spreading the talent around clubs who can't afford to buy them to me.

 

Well said, Brian.

Where would this end?

Next, they'll be trying to attack the Mighty Spurs for hording our fair share of English talent.

 

UEFA have deemed that the English football press continually trying to sell that
"talent" to certain other PL clubs, means no further intervention is needed by them .

 

There's a couple of major differences between the players Juve have out on loan compared to clubs like City or Chelsea: firstly there's the fact that Serie A doesn't have reserve football like the Premier League does, so the only way players outside the first team are going to play is if they're loaned out - which is why most Serie A clubs have 12-16 players loaned out every season. Secondly, a large chunk of the players Juve have out on loan came through their youth ranks, as opposed to the Chelsea/City system of buying youngsters just to loan them out year on year.

 

...anyway, here's another bunch of names randomly being linked with us.

Fresh from being linked with a summer move for Marcelo Brozovic, we're also being linked with a summer move for Mateo Kovacic. What strikes me as interesting about that story is the transfer fee being suggested is £21.8m, which is exactly what the suggested fee for Brozovic was. Now I'm not one to imply that our beloved journalistic corps are so bad at their jobs they can't tell one Croatian international from another, even though they play in different leagues, but...

Also getting mentioned is the decidedly non-Croatian Leon Goretzka, which also plays into the need for Narrative as the hacks can suggest that we paved the way for any deal that brings Goretzka to White Ha...Wembley this summer with the deal that saw Bentaleb head the other way. Normally I;d think this was pie in the sky talk, but then again Goretzka has just one more year left on his contract, and that sounds like a Levying waiting to happen.

Meanwhile, there's headlines saying we're preparing to take a massive loss on Sissoko, with L'Equipe saying we'd be willing to let him go for £17m this summer. Errm...selling a player for £11m more than we paid for him is not taking a loss.

 

I still don't quite understand the Sissoko deal...I thought it was 30 Mill? This 6 million per season to Newcastle deal I hear about does not make sense.

 

It does if he was a wage drain on the Toon, especially with their relegation.
Think of what Citeh did to get Adebayor off their wage bill.

But I cannot believe that Everton offered a worse payment terms deal than Spurs,
even if their transfer fee was not close to 30m.

If players had to appear by name in the company accounts as a capital asset
rather than a "melting pot" of player "activities" , then you would know the truth of it.

 

So we pay 6 mill a year for 5 years or up to when we sell him?

 

It does seem that Newcastle's plan for last summer was to have a windfall of cash after Sissoko had a successful Euros to put him in the window...but rather than have half a dozen clubs hammering on the door and inflating the fee as a result, there was nary a peep - and this created two bad situations for the price of one, as Sissoko was expecting to leave and was now pissed off, while Ashley was adamant he got his big sale even though Sissoko's potential fee would, if anything, have been dropping like a stone as the transfer window neared closure.

So in we step with our late bid of £6m, giving Sissoko a way out while allowing Ashley to claim he got £30m...even though 80% of the fee was reliant on Sissoko seeing out his five-year contract, which was highly unlikely from the outset as at the time the assumption was he'd rotate with Dembele, and that's the point: he wasn't seen as a guaranteed starter like Dembele, he was seen as an option for when Dembele needed a rest - and that was before the reality of Sissoko mainly being played on the wing.

Whenever he does leave, and that will be sooner rather than later, it's pretty much a given that he'll be described as a Levy signing given the way Poch doesn't rate him or even play him. Still, more money to rescue Rashford from the purgatory of the Man Utd reserves...