BURNLEY 12/1 QPR 14/1 BRISTOL CITY 18/1 MKD 28/1 CARDIFF 20/1 AT THE MOMENT 5 TEAMS MISSING FROM THE LIST
Hull, I would say favourites to join championship- Depends what theirs and QPRs team looks like- Burnley, I can see staying pretty much together-Leaving is anyone's guess, but reckon it will be Middlesbrough going. 18/1 is probably fair, unless we go off like a rocket, I would be happy with mid table stability to be honest-
Teams we might not like in our first 8 games Wolves Burnley Ipswich / Midds / Norwich Florest Derby Cardiff third team down from prem In fact 9 points from our first 8 games is imperative... our first target must be 48 points our second target must be 60 points our bonus target must be +68 points Looking at this 14/15 season championship in more detail it does seem to be a stronger one than previous years, with more games won by top 10 teams than seasons before, so at least 7 strong teams are left? . other than 12/13 when 55 points were safe +mid 40's is bottom end survival I would be happy with 60 points
There are no easy games at that level. We also don't really want promotion for a couple of years until the ground and the rest of the infrastructure is in place, but we will go for it in time.....of that I'm sure but we need to stabilise first as Gdknac says.
DERB . . . . 11 . . 11.... . HUDD . . . . 25 BURN . . . . 12 . . 12.... . MKD. . . . . 28 QPR.. . . . . 14 . . 16.... . BIRM . . . . 28 FLOR . . . . 16 . . 18.... . CHAR . . . . 50 SHFW . . . . 16 . . 18.... . HULL . . . . WOLV . . . . 16 . . 16.... . SWIN . . . . BLAC . . . . 16 . . 20.... . PNED . . . . CITY. . . . . 18 . . 16.... . IPSW . . . . BOLT . . . . 20 . . 28.... . NOR. . . . . BRIG . . . . 20 . . 20.... . BREN . . . . CARD . . . . 20 . . 20.... . MIDD . . . . FULH . . . . 20 . . 20.... . ROTH . . . . 80 LEED . . . . 20 . . 20.... . READ . . . . 20 . . 25.... . bar . . . . 80 IPSW . . . . 16 top teams at the moment.. 1 to come from the PREM and one from LGE 1 PLUS THE 3 LEFTOVERS FROM THE CHAMPS PO's
DERB . . . . 11 . . 11.... . HUDD . . . . 25 BURN . . . . 12 . . 12.... . MKD. . . . . 28 QPR.. . . . . 14 . . 16.... . BIRM . . . . 28 FLOR . . . . 16 . . 18.... . CHAR . . . . 50 SHFW . . . . 16 . . 18.... . HULL . . . . WOLV . . . . 16 . . 16.... . SWIN . . . . BLAC . . . . 16 . . 20.... . PNED . . . . CITY. . . . . 18 . . 16.... BOLT . . . . 20 . . 28.... . NOR. . . . . BRIG . . . . 20 . . 20.... . BREN . . . . CARD . . . . 20 . . 20.... . MIDD . . . . FULH . . . . 20 . . 20.... . ROTH . . . . 80 LEED . . . . 20 . . 20.... . READ . . . . 20 . . 25.... . bar . . . . 80 IPSW . . . . 16 top teams at the moment.. 1 to come from the PREM and one from LGE 1 and 1 from champs CITY ARE ALSO 5/1 to be promoted so that is they win it, second or go to Wembglee really very poor odds Bolton 9/1 promoted 4/1 relegated ??? and QPR 10/1 RELEGATED and 5/1 promoted.. prices drawn from a hat after a boozy dinner after the game at Wembglee on Sunday ...
On the face of it, those odds are insane. The bookies tend to know what they're talking about though, and they must feel that the momentum we've built, along with the downturn in fortunes of other clubs is enough to ensure we have a good season. I'll be happy with mid-table obscurity, to be honest. I really don't see us pushing for promotion without significant investment or some truly inspired signings. It's worth waiting for the summer to be over to see how the bookies react. If we land some good loan signings and improve in key areas I can definitely see us finishing in the middle.
insane is mild.. to win it or get second should be at least 14/1.. get promo, well, finish 1st or 2nd ( that's around 9/1 to cover both ) or the end result is that you have to overcome 3 playoff's after finishing in 3rd to 6th, that's 4/1 , plus at least maybe 4/1 for 3 games so > 8/1, so really 5/1 is farcical should be 10/1 oooops post written at 1850 forgot to push send button in my haste to see mantracker!
exactly, till the kick off of the first game it is all conjecture, bit like a sticky fly paper, An avid fan/s of say Burnley might think they will go straight back up and believe 12/1 is a fantastic price so puts on a £100 "that's my holiday paid for" a couple dozen others do the same say "25 " so bookies collect in £2500 but there are 24 teams so just 2 from each of the other teams have a bet @£100 = £4600 but ??? wins it so they have to pay out those 2 at 22/1 ? = £4400 profit of £200 of course the numbers of bets will be in the thousands and odds change each week, the bookies gamble to start with trying to get in money they know will change after kickoff on the first day.. its a lure..come in to my parlour said the spider to the fly.....
DERB . . . . 11 . . 11.... .LEED . . . . 20 . . 20.... . BURN . . . . 12 . . 12.... . READ . . . . 20 . . 25.... BREN . . . . 12 . . . . . . .HUDD . . . . 25 IPSW. . . . . 16 . . . . . . .MKD. . . . . 28 QPR.. . . . . 14 . . 16.... . BIRM . . . . 28 FLOR . . . . 16 . . 18.... . CHAR . . . . 50 SHFW . . . . 16 . . 18.... . HULL . . . . WOLV . . . . 16 . . 16.... . SWIN . . . . BLAC . . . . 16 . . 20.... . PNED . . . . CITY. . . . . 18 . . 16.... BOLT . . . . 20 . . 28.... . NOR. . . . . BRIG . . . . 20 . . 20.... . CARD . . . . 20 . . 20.... . MIDD . . . . FULH . . . . 20 . . 20.... . ROTH . . . . 80 .... . bar . . . . 80
With the relegations and promotions now sorted, we're joint 7th at 20/1 according to Sky, which in my mind is still pretty high, but puts us on par with the likes of Preston. It's still very early, but it looks like Sky are putting a lot of emphasis this year on the promoted teams doing really well.
BURN . . . . 9 . . . . 9 .. SHFW . . . . 22 .. 25 HULL . . . . 9 . . . . 7 .. BLAC . . . . 22 MIDD . . . . 10 . . . .9 .. FLOR . . . . 25 DERB . . . . 10 . . . .9 .. CARD . . . . 25 QPR.. . . . . 12 . . . . 12 . FULH . . . . 25 BREN . . . . 12 . . . .12 . MKD. . . . . 33 WOLV . . . . 16 . . . .12 . READ . . . . 33 CITY. . . . . 20 . . . .20 . BIRM . . . . 33 . 25 IPSW . . . . 20 . . . .16 . BOLT . . . . 33 LEED . . . . 20 . . . . 25HUDD . . . . 40 BRIG . . . . 20 . . . . 33 CHAR . . . . 66 PNED . . . . 20 . . . .33 ROTH . . . . 100 .. 150 bar . . . . THESE ARE BASICALLY FLYCATCHER PRICES top teams of this season, relegated and City as run away lge 1
Rotherham 2/1 Charlton 7/2 Bolton 7/2 City 4/1 odds to be relegated! but on 4/1 is also Leeds, MKD, PNE, Hudds, Reading !
BURN . . . . 9 . . . . 9 .. SHFW . . . . 22 .. 25 HULL . . . . 9 . . . . 7 .. BLAC . . . . 22 MIDD . . . . 10 . . . .9 .. FLOR . . . . 25 DERB . . . . 10 . . . .9 .. CARD . . . . 25 QPR.. . . . . 12 . . . . 12 . FULH . . . . 25 BREN . . . . 12 . . . .12 . MKD. . . . . 33 WOLV . . . . 16 . . . .12 . READ . . . . 33 CITY. . . . . 20 . . . .20 . BIRM . . . . 33 . 25 IPSW . . . . 20 . . . .16 . BOLT . . . . 33 LEED . . . . 20 . . . . 25HUDD . . . . 40 BRIG . . . . 20 . . . . 33 CHAR . . . . 66 PNED . . . . 20 . . . .33 ROTH . . . . 100 .. 150 bar . . . . CITY 11/2 TO GET PROMOTION THINK WE WILL GET RELGATED 9/1 TO WIN THE PLAYOFF'S 16/1 THINK WE MIGHT FINISH IN TOP 12? well put on £60 and the bookie will give you back £40 profit!
It often works that a promoted team does very well in the higher division, just like we did in 2008, but it's not a given