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Discussion in 'Tottenham Hotspur' started by humanbeingincroydon, Sep 21, 2016.

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    (Whilst agreeing with the sentiments :emoticon-0148-yes: )
     
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  2. SpursDisciple

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    You seem very sure of your facts? Would you condone a Soldier shooting an unarmed prisoner of war, however appalling the cause he fights for? I am not saying the decision is wrong by the way, but there is a bit of grey here.
     
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    I can't help but wonder if the reason for his appeal is because of that Israeli soldier who was charged with manslaughter for doing a similar thing, even though in that particular case no jury outside of Israel would ever think it was manslaughter based on the fact that the soldier waited for several minutes before shooting the Palestinian in the head
     
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    Nothing is grey. Three independent doctors confirmed he was not able to make a reasoned decision due to battle fatigue, stress etc., which the Judge corectly ruled is diminished responsibility.

    Just over a month ago I witness three local policemen (DRC) kicking and rifle-butting the corpse of an attacker whose friends had just shot and killed three of thier colleagues. They did this for over half an hour until the body was unrecognisable. There was no point, the guy was already dead, but because the trauma they had just gone through they needed to do this. If he had been alive but only wounded they would have needed to do the same thing. They are all reasonable people, it was just something they needed to do to relieve the trauma that they were suffering. There is no logical reason to do it but there is a need.

    It it a shame the term 'diminished' is used, personally I think British law ought to have an option to use the term 'Without'. As I said, there is no grey area. I look forward to Freddy Forsythes' investigation. IMHO Sgt Blackmans conviction was a political decision rather than a legal one. Big people may fall.
     
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    Rumours of Rashford joining Spurs dont seem to be going away. I've got it from a very reliable source that he will be demanding a move and we are his favoured destination...apparently it depends on who Jose is buying in the summer and the Ibra situation. Rashford refuses to be a bit part player next season.

    Interesting.
     
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    Apparently United are in advanced talks to sign Lukaku, which would only push Rashford further down the line
     
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    Shouldn't the authorities be investigating why players represented by Mino Raiola all seem to be headed to Old Trafford? Because that arrangement is looking especially dodgy

    ...oh, and just in case somebody wants to counter these claims by...pointing the finger at us as they fail to refute anything, let me just prove your theory wrong now with a list of our players' agents
    Harry Kane: http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/unique-sports-management/beraterfirma/berater/4142
    Dele Alli: http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/impact-sports-management/beraterfirma/berater/4217
    Erik Lamela: http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/just-football/beraterfirma/berater/1423
    Christian Eriksen: http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/the-talents-sportsmanagement-ltd/beraterfirma/berater/1012
    Eric Dier: http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/sbsfoot/beraterfirma/berater/2060
    Son Heung-min: http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/sports-united-gmbh/beraterfirma/berater/904
    Victor Wanyama: http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/extratime-s-l-/beraterfirma/berater/189
    Kyle Walker & Danny Rose: http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/base-soccer-agency-ltd/beraterfirma/berater/674
    Ben Davies: http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/mup-soccer-consulting/beraterfirma/berater/2626
    Kevin Wimmer: http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/stars-amp-friends-international-holding-gmbh/beraterfirma/berater/10
    Kieran Trippier: http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/stellar-football-ltd/beraterfirma/berater/190
    Georges-Kevin N'Koudou: http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/meissa-ndiaye/beraterfirma/berater/1881
    Michel Vorm: http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/prime-sportbusiness/beraterfirma/berater/2148

    Walker and Rose aside, none of our squad share an agent - unlike Pogba, Ibrahimovic, Mkhitaryan and now Lukaku.
     
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    That's probably because no agent will risk doing business with Danial Levy twice. It wouldn't surprise me if Levy manages to knock the agents down to 1%.
     
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    And there are plenty of us who would be deliriously happy with 1% of some of these bonkers transfer fees. Especially as it is for doing bugger all other than agitating for a move. Hell! 1% of Ryan Masons fee to Hull would be over three times I earn in a year and pay off well over half my mortgage.
     
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    That's probably exactly what Levy says to them.
     
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    Absolutely. It seems so many involved in football are living in a bubble away from the real world. Bonkers wages, bonkers ticket prices, bonkers TV deals and bonkers transfer fees. Our PCT trust has just announced that it has overspent by around £45million this year..... just over half a Pogba! That's a staggering amount of money to the real world but a shrug of the shoulders in Football Land. And then you have Moroninho winging that people are just jealous of Pogba as he earns so much! What a complete prick!
     
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    Perhaps the Chancellor should replace his ill-fated national insurance tax increase for the self employed with a new tax, FTT, the 'Football Transfer Tax'. He could set it at about 75% and give all of the money directly to the NHS.
     
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    Apart from being able to hold Utd to ransom, not sure what the allegation is here? Utd's stupid fault if they give that much power to one agent.
     
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    Backdoor third party dealings.

    Similar can be said for several of Jorge Mendes' clients, too, given there obvious patterns to their transfer moves: at some point they're parked at either Porto or Valencia, and a season or two later they move to a very small number of clubs on bumper deals. Obvious examples include James Rodriguez & Radmael Falcao leaving Porto for Monaco in the same deal, City paying big fees to Porto and Valencia for Mangala and Otamendi respectively, Ezequiel Garay is being touted for a big move from Valencia.

    Even more suspect, one of his noted clients is Jose Moronho, and look at how many of Mendes' clients that Moronho has signed over the years: Diego Costa, Angel Di Maria, Rodriguez, Falcao, Coentrao, Ricardo Quaresma, Deco, Paolo Ferreira, Tiago, Hilario - that's more than a little suspect.
     
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    Maybe that he has a lot of good players on his books?
     
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    There are 7.5bn kilometers between Earth and Pluto, yet that distance seems minuscule in comparison to how much you miss the point by every single time.
     
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  17. Diego

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    Ahh right, top agent has top players on his books, top club wants to buy them. I must have missed that edition of "conspiracy monthly", will try to pop into the library this week to see if they have a copy on record <ok>
     
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    Ahh, right, claim "conspiracy" because you can't comprehend something that is literally spelled out for you.

    So you don't find it funny how many of Raiola's clients pass through Porto and/or Valencia? Last time I checked, nobody would refer to either of them as "top clubs" yet they seem to have a very good track record of signing players who Raiola happens to represent - and make a tidy profit on them every single time. And you don't even think it looks strange how his clients all seem to make lucrative moves to the same clubs in the same period, such as the deal that took Moutinho and Rodriguez to Monaco, or Otamendi and Mangala heading to City, or three of his clients heading to a club that just so happened to be managed by a fourth?

    FYI, you probably should've looked into Raiola's history before mouthing off, given the FIGC have disciplined him twice for transfer irregularities, and when the Italian authorities think you're dodgy, that says you're dodgy.
     
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    Nope, I see an agent who is very good at placing young talent to develop and then get them great contracts at bigger clubs.
    It's part of the job and what makes him a top agent, no conspiracy there I'm afraid.
    Them moon landings looked dodgy as **** though <ok>
     
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    Definitely no bias in your assertion, as a Man Utd fan, that there's nothing dodgy about an agent who just so happens to have four clients at Man Utd...which includes the bloke who happens to manage the team. You know, you selects players to be signed. Nope, that doesn't look shonky at all. Absolutely not.

    Football agents are like people with offshore accounts: what makes them top agents isn't being good at their job, it's being good at staying ahead of the authorities so they don't get caught. However, when one agent keeps having his clients join clubs managed by another one of his clients, that's genuinely not being good at their job as that's where conflicts of interest come into play.
     
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