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Hull City AFC Appeal Against Huddlestone Red Card

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  1. originallambrettaman

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    Hull City AFC have appealed against Tom Huddlestone’s red card in Saturday’s match against Everton.

    The 30-year-old was dismissed in the second half at Goodison Park after referee Paul Tierney ruled he had fouled Idrissa Gueye.

    If the appeal is unsuccessful, Huddlestone will miss the Tigers’ forthcoming Premier League fixtures against West Ham United, Middlesbrough and Manchester City.

    The Club will hear the outcome by the end of the week.

    http://www.hullcitytigers.com/news/...one-red-card-3636881.aspx#5cm2ya07kHoGXZm2.99
     
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  2. bum_chinned_crab

    bum_chinned_crab Well-Known Member

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    I would be absolutely amazed if we won this.
     
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  3. John Ex Aberdeen now E.R.

    John Ex Aberdeen now E.R. Well-Known Member

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    Me too, it wasn't a red IMO and many others, but the FA won't want to undermine the ref's decision, unless it is an obvious wrong card.
     
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    John Ex Aberdeen now E.R., Mar 21, 2017
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    If City produce video evidence of about 20-odd tackles over the weekend which were worse that didn't even get a yellow card then it would be difficult for the FA to justify the red.
     
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  5. originallambrettaman

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    They don't have to, they'll look only at the one decision and decide if it was justified or not.

    It will be a minor miracle if it gets overturned, but we have to try.
     
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    John Ex Aberdeen now E.R. Well-Known Member

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    What does seem a bit unfair is that these actions by the ref impact the lesser team more than the bigger teams. Smaller teams just don't have the quality of player sitting on the bench to replace their better players in the first choice eleven.
     
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    John Ex Aberdeen now E.R., Mar 21, 2017
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    Probably unsuccessful but we had to try. The next few games ares massive.
     
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    N'Diaye will just have to step up and do the business.
     
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    I think the appeal is really a no brainer - as others have said, it was a poor decision but the ref does seem to be getting some support from a minority of observers and I suspect that the FA won't overturn it. Fingers crossed that they might surprise us though.
     
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    It's just not going to happen. They'd be liable to counter appeals from the rest of the teams in the relegation scrap.
     
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    Really? Not one ref I've seen comment on it thinks it was a red.

    Have no doubt it will be overturned.
     
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    Having just read the basis on which you can appeal, I'm slightly more positive that things could go our way.

    There's two forms of appeal, one is for 'obvious error', which is as the name suggests, is if the ref got it completely wrong and the red card is overturned.

    The other is for 'wrongful dismissal', which doesn't actually overturn the red card, but addresses whether the collateral damage of a straight red card – the suspension – is fair. On this second option we may stand a chance, as most would say that the offence didn't warrant a three match ban.
     
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    Yes I think most likely is they reduce it to one game, I can't see any chance of the appeal being rejected straight out. I still think it quite likely it'll be overturned altogether.
     
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    Here's hoping :emoticon-0107-sweat
     
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    Have you any idea how few referees decisions are actually overturned by FA panels?
     
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    As a percentage of the appeals? I can think of quite a few that have been overturned this season alone.

    The first that came to mind was this one: https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/foot...feghouli-red-card-overturned-west-ham-appeal/

    In fact it looks like the Hammers have had four of their last five overturned: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...-Manchester-United-sending-overturned-FA.html
     
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    It's strange that "wrongful dismissal" doesn't overturn the red card because it would imply there shouldn't have been a red card.
     
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    Traditionally, around 20% of appeals against red cards are successful each season.

    It used to be much lower percentage before they introduced the 'frivolous appeal' rule, as clubs appealed as a matter of course.

    West Ham were on the receiving end of some particularly **** decisions.
     
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    The laws are really clear - a red card is awarded if the player is using excessive force. A yellow card is awarded if the tackle is reckless. It's a yellow card offence, and all this guff about setting a precedent to protect other referees is irrelevant - otherwise they simply wouldn't have an appeals process.
     
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    The specific FA rule on 'wrongful dismissal' appeals...

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