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Off Topic Hull council to seek partner to build cruise terminal

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  1. Dr.Stanley O'Google, HCFC

    Dr.Stanley O'Google, HCFC Well-Known Member

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    Yep. Each time they've replaced the Europoort ships with bigger ones, the replaced ones have gone on to the Zeebrugge run.

    So what next?
     
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  2. tiger d

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    The eastern end of Riverside Quay would seem to the best place in my opinion. There is presently a large area of wasteland between Albert Dock entrance
    and the two Island Wharf office blocks. South of Wellington street.

    I would build the main terminal there as it is straight off the A63 and there is plenty of room for parking and the Marina is two minutes walk away.

    https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@53.7371684,-0.3400548,174m/data=!3m1!1e3

    I Would berth the cruise ships on Riverside Quay linking the terminal with a new swing bridge over the Albert Dock Lock Pit with shuttle buses
    ferrying the passengers to the ships.

    The existing sheds could either be demolished or refurbished into cruise service buildings for handling luggage and stores for the vessels.
     
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  3. Sunbeam-Tiger

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    To me its a waste of time and money You've got to question if it would actually attract enough regular cruises to stop it becoming a big white elephant. There is already quite a lot of ports already up and running as cruise terminals, Newcastle, Liverpool been the nearest to us in Scotland you have Glasgow and Edinburgh and quite a few down south, so we don't have any real advantage over these to make Hull attractive enough to some of the bigger cruise companies.
    The money HCC have waisted on this pipe dream could have been spent trying to attract more shops to what is fast becoming a ghost town of a city centre.
     
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  4. Sir Cheshire Ben

    Sir Cheshire Ben Well-Known Member

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    A couple of points.

    The money HCC have wrapped around their waist on this pipe dream could well attract more people into the city which, in turn, could lead to a need for more shops in the City Centre. Shops close for a reason, usually not enough custom. Ship them in, take their money, **** 'em off.

    Can a City Centre become a Ghost Town?
     
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  5. originallambrettaman

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    The cruise business is a rapidly expanding one and other than Scotland, Newcastle and Liverpool, all the cruise terminals are on the south coast. We could be the first choice departure port for Yorkshire and the Midlands if done well, there's a massive opportunity here.

    There are already tens of millions being spent on revamping the city centre, one does not prevent the other.
     
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  6. over18and legal

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    I go on a lot of cruises. This is great news. You can even put my council tax up £20 a year to pay for it.
    Or put the £20 to fight the Airco fiasco.
     
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  7. originallambrettaman

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  8. originallambrettaman

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    Just listened to an interview with the woman in charge of the Liverpool Cruise Terminal, they started with three cruise ships when they opened in 2007, they now have 62 cruise ships operating from their terminal.

    The £19m cost was largely met by a government investment of £9m and a European Development Fund grant of 8.6m. It's done so well, that they repaid the £9m government loan, to get all the operating restrictions lifted.

    Still a long way to go before they catch Southampton though, there's 360 cruise ships operating out of there.
     
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  9. ollyhcafc

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    Ive only been on one cruise but it was the best holiday Ive ever been , MSC Divina around the Caribbean all drinks included including top champers lived like a king that week. Wonder where the cruises would go?
     
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  10. Chilton's Hundreds

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    Ideally placed for Northern European destinations - Iceland, Norway, the Baltic states, etc.

    To compete with Southampton might be a bit more challenging as essentially the ships save approx. 24 hours sailing time when travelling to the Med etc. so
    the cost will reflect that (a cruise from Hull and back to the Med would be an extra 2 days on the holiday)

    But on the other hand, we'd attract holidaymakers from the northern half of Britain who wouldn't fancy the long trek to Hampshire and back.

    The Council has shown ambition so should be applauded for their efforts on this occasion.
     
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  11. originallambrettaman

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    Newcastle do cruises to the Baltics, Scandinavia, Mediterranean, North Africa and Canary Islands, I'd expect something similar.
     
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  12. Barchullona

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    Was in Southampton the other week. Similar sized city to Hull,but a lot more pleasant place to walk round in. A real sense of pride in the place by the residents.
    If you look at the river there and the cruise terminals you realise that nothing approaching that scale would be possible in Hull even if there was a need for it. Southampton is also helped by the tides there which mean more high water time available, which is why it became so important for shipping in the first place.
     
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  13. GLP

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    I think once visitors to the area have done battle with the A63 and Castle Street they'll use alternative terminals!! The footbridge over to the Marina now needs to be seriously looked at and re thought as if this terminal goes ahead they need to have a major review of the infrastructure. At the moment I agree there is no way it could cope - it struggles at present.
     
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  14. originallambrettaman

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    If they do it right, it won't involve Castle Street at all, it should be at Albert Dock and people should come off before Smith & Nephew's.
     
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    Do you have confidence in them doing it right? I don't!
     
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  16. originallambrettaman

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    Not really, but you never know, they might do it right by accident...
     
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    Hoping so!
     
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  18. howdentiger

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    A little bit further out but why not use the wasteland just past makro? Would be a great first impression for people visiting the city....the humber bridge then a ultra modern cruise terminal! Plus it's got to be a better sight then the unkept wilderness that's on the sit at the moment!
     
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  19. originallambrettaman

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    Because it's too far out and would limit the benefit to the city centre.

    If you stick it next to Albert Dock it's still close enough for people to walk in past the marina etc, though it would require a bridge being built over the dock entrance.
     
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  20. originallambrettaman

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    It would be brilliant, if having passed the Humber Bridge, you then come across this at the side of the A63...

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