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Hey what have you done to my UK Pension Devalued Pound means i can't afford Canadian Beer..lol

 

The thing I said above was actually said to me and is true about young people not being able to vote because they didn't understand. These are people who spout off about the democracy thing. The fact that this has less effect on old people like me who already have pensions and probably savings and much more on young people starting out in life seems lost on them. They will bear the brunt of all of this if it goes wrong and every expert says it will.

Forget beer BC you will be lucky to afford a slice of bread soon. Not that I'm trying to scare anyone of course.

 

Yes I agree you have just described the EU perfectly and exactly the reasons we needed to leave

 

At times like these and those we are now stuck with, you should remember the words from the great days of Empire Plymborn.

If you can keep your head while all around you are losing theirs, you probably don't fully understand the nature of the problem.

 

For those interested:

https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/131215

 

Well it's a disgrace. We will be in recession again. I think Cameroon done an ok job. Boris has stitched him up. God help us if he is prime minster or that creep grove.. Lyndy I hope the new hospital gets built soon. Total bull **** and as distant said its a vote agains the better off .. The north south divide is getting bigger I think. We need the eu people as we will have no one to do the jobs? As the voters of brexit are to bust watching Jeremy Kyle . We should now have a vote on benefits !!! We are in for a tough time, we'll only if you have worked hard.

 

It's not just North/South is it? Nearly all the English counties voted Leave, albeit by small majorities. You'd think subsidised farming communities with what immigrants there are doing essential low paid jobs on the farms no English worker would want would see which side their bread is buttered, but no.

It's a class thing, it's an age thing and it's a political thing as well.

A well educated minority who've had contact with Europeans other than on a Spanish beach voted Remain.

Older voters with dreams of Empire voted Leave at the expense of their children and grandchildren. Older voters tend to turn-out when younger ones don't.

It's hard to say how many Conservative voters followed the vociferous Brexit minority in Parliament but for sure large numbers of Labour voters seem to have taken the chance to have a swipe at the Conservative government and the City, which wasn't what it was all about even if they have a point. An almost invisible Labour leader who was only 75% sure himself made sure of a calamity.

What's for sure is that a lot of these groups are going to rue the day as a lot of the Euro money that comes back to us is spent in areas that will be way down the list for UK politicians, who'll be concerned with buying votes rather than doing good.

 

Would you be hoping that if those that wanted to leave had lost the referendum that they would try and get a petition asking for second referendum to try and changed the result !!!
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Cameron and Osborne (he's very quiet isn't he) have brought this on themselves.....they got it so wrong didn't they....Eton doesn't do poverty on their curriculum and the effect of it.....what would Bullingdon Club members know about the midlands and the norths struggle to exist....nothing.

 

Just trying to save the nation Plymborn. Just passing 2.1 million signatures. That's more than the majority BTW.

 

The government set the rules....they can't try to change them just because they lost.

 

Been a conservative voter all my life (well I would be wouldn't I !) and up until last week a party member (although a very inactive one). One thing is for sure, the vote has changed politics forever- if, as widely reported, there is a general election next spring who on earth will win. Labour voters wont vote for jeremy and lots of conservative voters (inc me) wont vote for their party if Boris is the leader. Chances are that we will end up with a hotchspotch coalition. Surely the most important thing now is to have strong leadership to steer us through the next 5 difficult years.

Its difficult to know but my feeling is that most conservatives voted IN and it was the silent labour voters who thought it would be good to vote OUT as some sort of anti-establishment protest.

Amazed that there were quite a few on radio 4 today who voted OUT as a protest but dont actually want us to leave-this provides more evidence that the educated and rational vote would have been IN. There is also an idea circulating that it might be possible for individuals to pay (say) £500 a year to remain a EU citizen. If all those in London that voted IN decided to pay this , it wouldn't be far from the net contribution that the UK makes. Seems like a good idea to me.

 

A strong government is required at this time.....but just as important a strong opposition.....to keep them honest.

In the last six years there hasn't been any resemblance of a strong opposition.....and that is why the government has been out of control with some of its policies and people like Duncan-Smith have said enough is enough.

Camerons 'efforts' at renogotiating fooled no one.....the EU allowed him the dregs from the bottom of the pot.....and he came back as if he had been given the golden fleece....it was so so hollow.....add to that his henchman Osborne turning the screw with his only policy.....austerity, austerity, austerity and you had the perfect storm developing.....Cameron had 'allowed' us a referendum and the people...including Tories, Labour etc who felt that they had had enough of being bullied took the opportunity to state their case and defeated this government that had lost touch with the people.

I live in the London Borough of Bromley......whose council members must be roughly 90% Tory....year after year....yet the referendum result was a win for remain....but with only 50.7% of the vote...... which shows many Conservatives voted for out as well......not austerity around here....so why did they only just support Cameron/Osborne's remain campaign with 50.7% of the vote ?

 

I am not a supporter of any political party and never have been. I tend to look at the Country as it stands at the time and look at what the parties are saying. I have actually voted for all 3 in my time. I agree with what was said above, this vote was used as a swipe at the Establishment and not necessarily a vote against Europe as a single topic. Not by all the out voters of course but a fair few of them no doubt. How idiotic can you get if that was your motive. I hope that they send all of the EU migrant workers home. I then hope that they make all of the people who think they were steeling our jobs go out and do those jobs in their place. If they don't then bollox to them don't pay them any benefits. I wonder how long they will still hold the view that these people were their enemy. When all the prices have gone up and they can only afford the bare minimum to live on. When their local hospital closes for lack of staff.

The right wing political parties are not the EU Guywanderer they simply exist within it. They are kept quiet and at bay through lack of nationalism. When you start drawing the bridge up and start to look inward it opens their box and lets them out. Going back 50 years is not the sort of Europe you want trust me. Norway was the country I was thinking of previously who trades with the EU without being in it. Guess what, they have to allow the free movement of people to do it without getting anything out of the Union at all. Anyone who thinks we will be made some sort of special case is even more barking that the out voters.

 

I'm with you Lyndhurst. Apart from the years when not to vote Socialist means you don't have a heart, I've voted Conservative consistently. I won't vote now at all while Johnson, Gove or any of the other Brexiteers lead the party.

We aren't the only ones. We need to find a way to get such a boycott across to local MP's and candidates.

 

I imagine UKIP will form the next Government given everyone voted for their policies in this vote.

 

Difficult with only one MP sensible.

 

Agree, i am tory through and through.. never done any different.. No tory vote for me if Johnson or one of his team get the PM..
Mrs May for me.. she may be the new Maggie

 

Theresa May is the wests answer to Imelda Marcos.....shoes, shoes, shoes.......no thank you.

 

We need a Maggie