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Premier League 2016/2017 Predictions

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  1. Citizen Kane

    Citizen Kane Danny Rosebud

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    I never thought I'd hear myself saying this, but....in their defense, at this stage of the season pundits are as blind as the average armchair supporter. Lidl is correct: there are far too many variables up in the air for anyone - even the most astute footballing mind - to make an informed decision. Particularly this season with frantic transfer activity up and down the league and managerial changes not far behind. Sitting here thinking about my own predictions, I can understand why most pundits simply 'play it safe' and predict predictably; then at least if it all goes pear shaped (like last season), they can save face by saying 'well no-one saw that coming, not even Biff Tannen's almanac in Back to the Future knew Leicester were going to run away with it!'

    This difference between us and pundits is that we can afford to make risky predictions (see Powerspurs' for an example) because we won't face an onslaught of Twitter abuse if we subsequently get them wrong. So we can afford to be more imaginative. If it doesn't work out, well - who cares? we're not pundits anyway. If it does work out - we're the greatest footballing genius alive. Win-win. Just like a real pundit ;)
     
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  2. PleaseNotPoll

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    If they're as blind as the rest of us, then they shouldn't be pundits.
    It's their job to know better than the average Joe.

    I can't knock them for getting things like Leicester winning the league wrong, as that would be incredibly hard to predict.
    A lot of them offer absolutely nothing to the vast majority of those that follow the game, though.
    Gary Neville's notable because he says things that aren't completely bloody obvious. That shouldn't be unusual.

    Merson's not really there for his insights into the game, as much as his jovial personality and humour, though.
    You can't say the same applies to the likes of Charlie Nicholas or Tony Gale, unfortunately.
     
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  3. Citizen Kane

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    Top 6:
    1. United
    2. Spurs
    3. Chelsea
    4. Arsenal (The 4th law of thermodynamics states that if Arsenal don't finish in the top 4, the Universe reverts to raw energy)
    5. City
    6. Liverpool

    Relegation:

    18. Sunderland Hotspurs
    19. Burnley
    20. Hull Hotspurs

    FA Cup:
    Man City

    League Cup:

    Liverpool

    Top Scorer:

    Harry Kane - 26 goals

    P.O.T.S:

    Harry Kane

    Y.P.O.T.S:

    Marcus Rashford

    Surprise team of the season:

    Leicester (bubble will burst in a tragicomic epic)

    Signing of the season:

    Alex Manninger <laugh>

    Champions League:

    Bayern Munich
    Europa League:
    A Spanish side
    Manager of the season:
    Jose Mourinho. They'll win the league and the media will collectively drown in saliva.
     
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  4. redwhiteandermblue

    redwhiteandermblue Well-Known Member

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    I've been right and the pundits have been wrong for a couple of years a row now. It's not because I'm smart. It's because they're stupid.

    Predicting leagues reliably and accurately is beyond mortal powers. Not making the exact same mistake you've made five years in a row should not be. I don't have a crystal ball, but what I can do is look at this year and at previous years, and try to extrapolate.

    Here's what I've got:
    The keys for some time now have been quality + continuity. That favors Arsenal and Spurs, arguably Leicester and West Ham and perhaps Man City and Liverpool. Big spending and discontinuity have not gotten anyone anywhere. That would be Man U and Chelsea. Hey, maybe they go one two. But if they do, next year I'll take teams that spend big a lot more seriously.
     
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  5. remembercolinlee

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    Top 6:
    Liverpool, City, United, Arsenal, Leicester, Chelsea
    Relegation: Burnley, Hull, Sunderland
    FA Cup: Liverpool
    League Cup: Liverpool
    Top Scorer: Benteke
    P.O.T.S: Milner
    Y.P.O.T.S: Emre Can
    Surprise team of the season: Boro coming top 10
    Signing of the season: Mane
    Champions League: not liverpool
    Europa League: Liverpool
    Manager of the season: Klopp

    This is next year after all
     
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  6. Blue and White

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    Top 6:
    Manchester United
    Tottenham Hotspur
    Liverpool
    Manchester City
    Arsenal
    Chelsea
    Relegation:
    Watford
    Sunderland
    Bournemouth
    FA Cup:
    Machester City
    League Cup:
    Manchester United
    Top Scorer:
    Zlatan Ibrahimovich
    P.O.T.S:
    Zlatan Ibrahimovich
    Y.P.O.T.S:
    Eric Dier
    Surprise team of the season:
    Swansea
    Signing of the season:
    Borja ( Not counting money bags)
    Champions League:
    Bayern Munich
    Europa League:
    Manchester United
    Manager of the season:
    Jose Mourinho ( again thanks to the money)
     
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  7. The RDBD

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    http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/37040156
    Well the BBC "pundits" hath spoken.

    It seems the Poool are rated as likely as Spurs as finishing in the top 4.
    Unsurprisingly only one pundit thinks Leicester will finish in the top 4.

    <discuss>
     
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  8. PleaseNotPoll

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    Top 6: Man Utd, Arsenal, Spurs, Chelsea, City, Liverpool.
    Relegation: West Brom, Burnley, Hull.
    FA Cup: Chelsea.
    League Cup: Liverpool.
    Top Scorer: Ibrahimovic.
    P.O.T.S: Ibrahimovic.
    Y.P.O.T.S: Dele Alli.
    Surprise team of the season: Boro. Won't flirt with relegation.
    Signing of the season: Kante.
    Champions League: Barca.
    Europa League: Man Utd.
    Manager of the season: Mourinho.
     
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  9. humanbeingincroydon

    humanbeingincroydon Well-Known Member

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    So we're not predicting the first manager sacked this season?
     
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  10. Citizen Kane

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    I'm actually pleasantly surprised by how many of those luminaries predicted us to finish in the top 4. Standard bias with Jenas placing us in 2nd and Chrissy Waddle tipping us to win the league <applause>

    Biggest surprise has to be how Lawro hasn't predicted his beloved Liverpool to achieve top 4, which is remarkable given that I think they dropped 7 points all season in his weekly predictions last year.
     
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  11. The RDBD

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    <sminky pinky meh-feh-feh feh-feh-feh>


    "Biggest surprise has to be how Lawro hasn't predicted his beloved Liverpool to achieve top 4"

    Stop the press !!! It is true.
    Have Leicester and Spurs last season finally destroyed the Mouser in him ?? :)
     
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    In the league as a whole? Garry Monk, followed by whoever takes over from Garry Monk.
    Leeds are a bit of a joke at the moment, which I'm sure some people are finding very, very funny.
    Ridiculous owner, though.

    Premier League? Steve Bruce. No, wait...
    Pulis is 2-1 favourite, which I find a little strange. Mazzarri and Guidolin I can understand.
    Hughes might be worth a punt. I've seen a few uncomplimentary comments about him from Stoke fans.
    Marc Wilson also had a pop at him for not training their defence, which isn't a good sign.
     
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  13. Spurm

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    I'd go for Bruce. I think they'll struggle and seems their fans already aren't keen on him anyway. Could turn nasty in a hurry
     
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    Er...
     
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  15. Citizen Kane

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    Pardew has to be one of the favourites. Palace simply went off the rails in the last few months of last season. They went from challenging the top 6 to fighting relegation in a frighteningly short period of time - I don't think they managed a win in something like 12 games! I look at their team and there simply isn't enough quality anywhere on the pitch. If Bolasie leaves I reckon it could trigger a meltdown on and off the pitch. If they get off to a bad start they could really struggle to pick themselves up again.
     
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    That's the Circle of Pardew. It seems to happen to his teams quite frequently, for some reason.

    Got West Ham promoted, then finished in the top-half and reached the FA Cup final. Sacked in December.
    Bombed at Charlton, then made Southampton competitive, despite a points reduction.
    Signed Ricky Lambert, won the Johnstone's Paint Trophy, then got sacked five months later.

    Kept Newcastle up, signed some promising French players, qualified for Europe and won two Manager of the Year awards.
    Reached a European quarter-final, then went on a streak where they lost 15 from 21. Barely kept his job.
    Started the season well, got a Manager of the Month award, then left for Palace.

    I've no idea why, but his teams seem to hit great patches of form and then plunge into horrible ones.
    It might be down to something he's doing with his squads (No depth? Pissing off non-first XI players?), but I haven't looked into it enough to know.
     
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  17. Spurm

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    I don't live in England, you can't expect me to keep up with the likes of Hull
     
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  18. Animo Et Fide

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    Top 6:
    Chelsea
    Spurs
    Man City
    Man Utd
    Arsenal
    Leicester

    Relegation:
    Hull
    Burnley
    Watford

    FA Cup:
    Liverpool

    League Cup:
    Chelsea

    Top Scorer:
    Aquero

    P.O.T.S:
    Aquero

    Y.P.O.T.S:
    Rashford (assuming Mourinho gives him a game - if not get him to the lane in January).

    Surprise team of the season:
    Bournemouth (many pundits pick for relegation but will finish comfortably mid table)

    Signing of the season:
    Mane

    Champions League:
    Bayern

    Europa League:
    Arsenal (having been eliminated from the Champions league)

    Manager of the season:
    Conti.
     
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  19. redwhiteandermblue

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    Well, I"m not sure not predicting good things for Spurs has helped them, so let's see how predicting good things for them goes...

    Top 6:
    Spurs
    Arsenal
    Liverpool
    Man City
    West Ham
    Man U

    Relegation:
    Borough
    Burnley
    Watford

    FA Cup:
    Liverpool

    League Cup:
    Man U

    Top Scorer:
    Kane

    P.O.T.S:
    Alli

    Y.P.O.T.S:
    Cook

    Surprise team of the season:
    Hull (they'll finish 15th).

    Signing of the season:
    Cook

    Champions League:
    Juve

    Europa League:
    Sevilla (going out on a limb there)

    Manager of the season:

    Klopp (in an injustice)
     
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  20. mustyfrog

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    Top 6:
    1st. Man Utd
    2nd. Man City
    3rd. WHU
    4th. Arsenal
    5th. Spurs
    6th. Everton
    Relegation:
    18th. Sunderland
    19th. WBA
    20th. Hull
    FA Cup:
    Liverpool
    League Cup:
    WHU
    Top Scorer:
    Ageuro
    P.O.T.S:
    Ozil
    Y.P.O.T.S:
    Baston
    Surprise team of the season:
    Swansea
    Signing of the season:
    Baston
    Champions League:
    Real Madrid
    Europa League:
    Roma
    Manager of the season:
    Guidolin
     
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