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Discussion in 'Manchester United' started by Style, Aug 21, 2012.

  1. Swarbs

    Swarbs Well-Known Member
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    Or at the very least City are guaranteed of top four but can't win the title so they aren't fully focused on the league by then
     
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  2. glazerfodder

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    Can anyone explain to me the enigma that is Falcao................. only fleeting glimpses of his talent for us, the same for the Chavs, but put him back in the Monaco side and he is a man reborn. That lobbed goal last night was world-class.
     
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  3. BobbyD

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    He wasn't really given much of a chance with us and he needs chances to score goals by having people play him in as unless he's in the box and can turn a defender, he isn't producing anything himself as he's not strong/fast enough.

    Production wise i thought he was okay with you lot, grabbed a few goals and assists but Van Gaal insisted on rotating him out the side and transformed your team from attacking to a possession side to side crab football team (about same time Di Maria went off the boil) and for whatever reason he barely played in the 2nd half of the season.
     
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  4. Christiansmith

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    Falcao is the classic confidence player. He needs to feel loved and appreciated and needs a good start. If things don't go his way straightaway and he gets under pressure, he crumbles. And LVG didn't help with his nonsensical possession football.
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    At Monaco he knows he has delivered. So much easier to perform.
     
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  5. Stan

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    He wasn't fit when he was at United. He was rushed back from injury and never got match fit due to a poor pre season and then limited playing time in a league that was possibly too quick for even a fully fit Falcao. Can't comment about his time at Chelsea.
     
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  6. Chief

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    Ranieri sacked.

    ****ing hell, I've heard it all now.
     
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  7. Christiansmith

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    Yes, desperate.

    But Ranieri made a fundamental mistake. He thought he was and his players were better than they were. He should like everyone believed that the premiership title was a miracle and they had luck that cannot be repeated.

    Instead he went for the champions league to the detriment of the premiership with a much weaker Kante less team. His premiership matches suffered and losing is a habit which he couldn't shake. Miracles only happen once.

    Very sad. Leicester should have given him a chance and gone down in the championship if necessary but fear is a terrible thing and once Leicester get there, there is no guarantee that Ranieri will get them up.

    Who now can arrest their slide?
     
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  8. ITS_NOT_JUST_A_GAME

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    Hope we get APOEL in tonights draw with me living in Cyprus. Twice in the past few years we have had the chance to get them in European draws and both times Chelsea got them.
     
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  9. Chief

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    Was saying this on the premier league board but apparently this is a patronising attitude!!

    I mean, what the ****? Honestly, they won the league with this bloke. Surely with more or less the same squad bar Kante they'd be confident enough to get promoted from the championship IF they got relegated??

    Newcastle look like doing it and their team and manager are ****.

    Leicester should have kept Ranieri and whatever happened, happened. Then change the manager at the end of the season, regardless. It's shoddy what they've done and they deserve relegation for it now.
     
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  10. Swarbs

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    True, but as you note Newcastle's squad was ****e when they were relegated, so much easier to keep them together. Whilst most of Leicester's players were happy to stay loyal after the title win, it's hard to see Mahrez, Vardy, Schmeichel, maybe even Drinkwater, Albrighton and others not clearing off if they do go down.

    That's probably the biggest fear of the board / owner - get relegated and all the players clear out for little or no fee then you have to try and rebuild a squad whilst still paying high wages to all the players who aren't up to the task but still got wage increases after the league win.

    Still agree they shouldn't have sacked him though - no one currently available who looks like a better option. Mancini seems favourite, and he's never successfully negotiated a relegation fight in his life. Tbh I think they are now confirmed for relegation, will go out of the CL this round, and even more players will leave once they go down without Ranieri at the helm.
     
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  11. glazerfodder

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    It is truly shameful what they have done. OK, this season they have had a massive reality check but everyone knew that was going to happen. Just the other night they had a fantastic result in the CL and could have used that as a catalyst to recover some form, perhaps even kept them up - but now it's even more likely they will implode. If reports are correct that senior players led some kind of revolt to edge him out, then they should be publicly shamed after all Ranieri did for that club - especially as he had numerous offers in the close season to move to other (better) clubs, one report even suggesting he was offered the Italian national side job.

    A very bad day for football.
     
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  12. Red Hadron Collider

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    Somewhat predictable <laugh>
     
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    I think you'll find it's somewhat factual!!
     
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  14. Red Hadron Collider

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    ****ers don't win the European Cup.

    By the way, I was under the impression you had a ****ing cup final on Sunday. There's not even a thread for it. This from the "third biggest club in the World" supporters <whistle>
     
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    I'm on the mother ****er!
     
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    What? Train? Coach? Acid? <laugh>
     
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    Seems like it was a players revolt. Certainly none of them are rushing to give heartfelt thanks for all he's done.

    What a disgusting bunch of ****s. Without Ranieri nobody outside of a Thai brothel would have a clue who any of them are.
     
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    Can only hope they get relegated and then have to **** off back to Morecombe and Caen and deserved obscurity.
     
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  19. glazerfodder

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    About the only time in my life that I want Liverpool to win. These lazy fu**ers, who do they think they are. All of them are on double the contracts they were on last year, they've gladly taken the bonuses, the big cars, the endorsement deal............ and what have they done in return. One or two if these 5hits have started to believe their own hype and have downed tools for their manager. The only good thing to come out of this is the fact that Ranieri doesn't have to suffer the indignity of relegation. I hope he returns to football and at some point in the future, with the football world willing him on, he gets a chance to humiliate Leicester.
     
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  20. Christiansmith

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    He probably has Leicester in his heart. It's the ****ing owners he'll despise.

    But one thing, looking back, he should have done (although he did make occasional jokey reference to it) is to say that the top priority is to survive in the premiership. A mid table position would have been good. They outperformed in the CL but no one expected Leicester to repeat their miracle there. Wouldn't it be ironic if they beat Sevilla 1/0 and went through to the next round?

    The other thing is: By doing that miraculous feat, it would have been natural for the owners to say to Ranieri "the job is yours as long as you want it mate". Did they tell him that? Did he not earn the right to persist with the same players or to try something new? One thing is certain. The owners exploited that title win to the maximum, used it for their political purposes to even ingratiate themselves with the royals,the Thai people and other top political brass.
     
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