The FA and FL Cup Thread 2016/17

Spurs fans on ja not happy. Moaning about how MP doesn't take the domestic cups seriously

 

Current team without exception. Alderweireld, Schneiderlin, & Mane would all make the squad or be interchangeable with existing starters, but unlike others I don't think there's any guaranteed upgrades by getting any of the old players back.

 

Sorry but that's nonsense.

Toby is the best cb in the league imo and would improve on Fonte/Maya massively.

Clyne is twice the player of any of our right backs.

Mane would still walk into our team.

I won't bother with Morgan as he hasn't played a lot so there's an argument to be had.

The 3 above aren't even up for debate imo.

 

But not Fonte and VVD at all, so the Belgian bloke can do and do one.

 

Eh? You've lost me?

 

So that'll explain why we're playing worse this season then, because we're missing all of these great players. Maya is not a 1st choice starter, so I've no idea why you've mentioned him.

Also Clyne "twice the player", please!! Just because you don't like our current RB's as being the best position in our team, does not make Clyne's outstanding contribution to a porous Liverpool defence any better.

 

Okay Toby's a better cb than Fonte then... not exactly controversial.

The question was who would make a best combined team. You said none... I challenged that and said those 3 certainly would.

 

Maya is not a first choice CB. Does that make it clearer.?

As it happens, when the Belgain was playing for us, he became injured and Gardos came in and we barely missed him. So no thanks. That was then and this is now.

 

I can accept the opinion of someone saying they think one is slightly better than another in each of those cases, but 'certainly would', no. If it was that certain, then how come we've improved each season while only ever recruiting direct replacements in the positions of the players that you are so certain are better? As I said, close calls maybe or small preferences, but there's no definitely in there for me. Agree to disagree?

 

I didn't ask the original question just answered it, I still think Toby is the best cb in the league

I think it's simplistic to say we've improved so can't be much difference as rb was widely considered a problem area to us last year and to a few still our weakest position.

Also as the question is about a combined team it's not always the replacement who would make way. Virgil replaced Toby and there's probably not much difference between them. But in this situation Toby wouldn't be taking his place, it'd be Fontes. Similarily with Mane.

But yeah I think we'll agree to disagree mate

 

Fair enough. I don't.

 

I agree with Liebherr. Absolutely 100% I'd put Clyne back in for Cuco. Toby is better than Fonte, and I'd have Mane over Redmond or Austin. I'd also have Schneiderlin over Clasie. Probably Cork over Clasie too.

Sorry if this offends some people.

 

I gather from your mocking tone that you are saying we have improved from last season? I really, really, hope you are right. But just because we have beaten a crap West Ham team away, and Burnley at home, don't get ahead of yourself. Last season we finished 6th and beat every single noteworthy team in the league (I think), recording our highest points total in Prem history. We are playing some neat stuff at the moment for sure, but there is a long, long, long way to go, and it will be some achievement if we can keep up this level of play until May and come close to last season's points tally.

 

You may be right, but they have gone. Very few teams get to keep all their best players. They are dead to me. I think we have a very strong adaptable team. If wishes were horses etc

NB One question...would we have signed VVD if Toby had stayed? Possibly because we think ahead, but perhaps we would have turned our attention to another position as we would have had Toby, Fonte, Maya and (possibly) Gardos.

 

You're right of course. I'm not complaining about having let them gone. Was just answering the question someone put on page 1 about which players who had recently left would still make it into the current team were they here.

 

In that case...I agree that the ones you named would still be in our team.

 

I think VVD is better than Toby.

 

Of course we wouldn't have had all of them as some were bought with money from the sale of others. I'm not sure we'd have bought VVD if we had kept Toby, but Toby would be good to replace Fonte when he has to be put out to pasture (or stud as I prefer to think of it).

 

Stats from Newcastle vs Preston (6-0)

Possession
Home 66% Away 34%

Shots
Home 25 Away 1

Shots on Target
Home 13 Away 1

Corners
Home 9 Away 2

 

Newcastle could well be challenging top 8 of the prem next season.