Off Topic The state of the NHS...

Condolences Thudd, 53 is no age.

 

So anyway, dads back in HRI after another fall caused by a urinary infection. This isn't my reason for posting though. When visiting tonight, my dad asked about City in general.

Then the elderly chap in the next bed joined in our conversation and then the bloke in the corner. To cut a long story short, there are four elderly patients in dads room and all four are City fans.

All of them look in a terrible state of disrepair.

Is there a connection between our old folk and this difficult season we're having?

Come on City, get your ****ing finger out and give these long suffering fans a boost

 

Mebbe it'd help if you stopped telling them we're going to win Kemps. Its the hope that gets ya not the despair.

 

Chazz mate, it's me ****ing dad who keeps telling me we're going to win.

 

Sorry to hear that. No great age. My dad was 70 when he went and it still seemed too young.

 

My mum had a serious operation at HRI over Easter.

They're doing a grand job. Deserve so much better.

 

My old lady's in Castle Hill. They found a tumour in her intestine last week & whipped it & part of her intestines out this evening.

Each time I've spoke to her over the last week she's talked more about the wonderful docs & nurses looking after her than her problems.

On the plus side I've spoke to the old fella & she came out of surgery at quarter to 8 & is feeling ok all things considered.

The NHS is an invaluable institution manned by exceptionally skilled & dedicated people.

 

I don't want to go all UKIP but too much money is being spent on giving treatment to immigrants and health tourists.....Start spending the money on only those who contribute to the system......

PS...My experience of the NHS is less than rosy...A lot of fat arsed, couldn't care nurses doing ****-all.

 

If you're going to make a post like this, I think it should at least be backed up with an explanation? If you want to go private, go private, what's stopping you?

 

I don't think I need to explain anything, because you wouldn't believe it if I told you. Suffice to say a close family member died in Hull Royal 7/4/2007 and the care was less than good...Hence the comment about fat-arsed nurses....End off....

 

It does get easier, a little, or so I'm told.

Similar circumstances last year July 27th my Mum had a massive brain haemorrhage aged 60. She died on the 5th August after 5 days in ICU then onto a ward minus drips awaiting the end.

In these circumstances the NHS, in particular the staff at HRI were absolutely brilliant. As a family we were around the bed 24/7 for Mum's last few days - the staff couldn't have been more helpful, understanding or considerate.

It's only 10 months ago, and it still hurts. I was on the scene literally minutes after it had happened, she could still answer questions and was semi coherent, to then lose her 9 days later, to me seems absurd.

I miss my Mum massively.

 

I know how you feel fella.....I miss my mum massively.. Eight years ago, but I still think about her every day...

 

Why didn't you go private mate?

 

First thing - all the best to all of you who are dealing with family illnesses. Hope your Dad improves soon Kemps.

It it's so sad to hear about the state of the NHS. And what a cruel irony that a social advance that Britons were so rightly proud of and led the world in, is now apparently so third rate. It took Australia until the 1970's to get a proper public health system and that is also now under attack. The US is only just beginning - with extreme opposition - to try and embrace something resembling public health.

My congratulations to all of the posters so far in managing to abide by the "no politics" rule in commenting on this thread. Therefore I'll restrict mine to the situation here in Australia. The one thing the Liberals (Conservatives) here are right about is that the Nations income is reducing. So I guess there is ascertain logic when they lecture the population about the need to accept the need for sacrifice - after all, how can we afford a proper health care system and continue to reduce business tax rates, give superannuation tax breaks to the richest people in the country, allow Rupert Murdoch's NewsCorp to pay NO TAX by shifting profit overseas, continue to militarily support a corrupt Government in Iraq (what a sensational little multi billion dollar jaunt that's been), etcetera, etcetera....

I guess the fact is that right across the West, the few gains made by the working class since the Second World War (gains led by the British) and gains that have shone a favourable light on democracy and prevented the need for revolution and the slide towards dictatorship and tyranny; are all being clawed back by the super rich who have sulked and resented the need to share a nations riches.

And all the while, the so called Labour parties have cowed to the wishes of the rich and powerful and collapsed in the face of Murdoch type assaults, and most shamefully, they have failed not only to present a vision for a prosperous and FAIR society (both things are possible), but the have failed to defend their - and society's - past gains and accomplishments!

I hope someone stands up for the NHS.

 

Evidence please. The NHS doing it's best in difficult times.
Hope Kemps' Dad will be better soon and a City win would help cheer up him and the guys on the ward.

 

Heaven forbid anybody came here and fell ill, what would you tell them? "Oh I'm sorry you've contracted pneumonia but because you can't recite the first verse of God Save the Queen you're going to have to die? " What kind of country would allow that? And how do they decide where the money is being spent, it's not like there's a seperate pot of money to deal with non-British people, it all comes from the same place. If we started denying foreigners treatment on the basis of their country of origin, then...well, it'd just be racist wouldn't it?

 

Its no consolation I know, but here in Denmark (where I live for my sins) the public health service is no better than what I hear of the NHS. Don't be fooled by all the tripe about Nordic paradises and the world's happiest people and the epitome of welfare states.

Just what Denmark spends its taxes on is anyone's guess. Stupid amateur theatres and art galleries? Roads? While the Danish spending on defence is less than half that of the UK, and their taxes much higher, hospitals here are frequently overfilled with people put in bathrooms or out in corridors for days on end. They'll gladly spend 5000 quid of taxpayer money to give single women fertility treatment, and then give them a year off work with pay to look after their newborn infant, and then for the next 16 years or so pay public support for that child, and while this is going on, the elderly and seriously ill are left for hours on end in a hospital bed wearing a soiled nappy.

It is all a question of priorities, and our choices reflect exactly what sort of people we are.

 

It may just be a coincidence but I've been hospitalised a few times, as have my parents and other relatives.

The doctors have always been exceptional - the standard of nursing I have witnessed has been absolutely shocking. During one spell, my mother actually made and changed the bed sheets herself of mine and other patients as the nurses didn't do it. They weren't too busy, they spent most of the day on reception talking about soaps.

Most I've seen are vastly overweight too.

I know others have had different experiences but from mine and my family's I've found them poor and unprofessional.

 

Must agree with the overweight bit. Though my treatments, of which there have been quite a few, have with two exceptions been excellent, one memory was going to a physio session to be lectured about the importance of eating sensibly and exercising by a lass the size of Dawn French before she lost weight. A lot of the nurses were of a size where they would be refused treatment themselves unless they lost weight.