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Discussion in 'Hull City' started by Craigo, Nov 3, 2011.

  1. DMD

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    Boothferry Park, as was, compared to today.
     

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  2. City Man

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    Still partly a building site even after all this time.

    At least we eventually got some referential and commemorative street names.
    Now.....about this old Anlaby Road ground...
     
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  3. Yardley Tiger

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    Interesting was and is composite. The was photo even shows the footbridge over the railway line that Blue Mountains Bear and myself (along with others) from Riley High School on the Boulevard used to watch Yorkshire during our lunch hour.
     
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  4. The Omega Man

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    Does anyone have any info on Douglas Morgan who played for the club 1914-15 please?

    I have basic info, but would like to be guided to anything like his or the teams photo or if there is a memorial to him in the KC.
    Born 1890
    Played 52 league games and 6 FA cup matches
    Died 31/12/1916 of Wounds

    Doug served in the Royal Garrison Artillery in Flanders and was mortally wounded whilst celebrating Hogmanay when a shell landed nearby. I think he played in the team that got through to the Qrt finals of the FA Cup in 1915.

    My belief is that he is the only player who joined up and was killed whilst on active service.
     
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  5. City Man

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    https://www.twgpp.org/information.php?id=2044948
     
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    I have got that thanks, the Academy visited his grave in 2014. I have most of what I need now.

    I am also looking at the history of Frederick Clark who died aged 19, in 1918. Somethings do not add up. It is said that he played as centre forward for Hull City and scored two goals in the Thamesmouth Cup, but I cannot find a club record for him or City playing in such a cup. I also believe that he was perhaps too young to have played in a professional capacity.
     
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  7. Bengals Tiger

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    Many kids lied about their age at that time, and many of them therefore died in WWI.
     
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  8. The Omega Man

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    Frederick Clark Born in 1899 Died in May 1918 aged 19, the Football League did not play from 1915. The club records show the youngest Hull City player was aged 16 and 63 days. The last League matches where played in April 1915 (as far as I can see).

    So here is the mystery.
    He lived in Hull (Hedon)
    Joined "The Tigers" the 7th Leicester Battailion (cap badge is a Bengal Tiger)
    Professional football was not played after April. 1915
    No record of Hull City taking part in the Thamesmouth Cup (He scored 2 goals). There was a training base used by a battalion of The Leicester's in Witham Essex.

    I do not want to do the lad a dis-service, but could it be that; He played football for the "Tigers" in a football match played in Essex whilst at the training camp?

    I am more than aware of the ages of some who served in WW1 and have done a considerable amount of research on those from Hull, see other threads.
     
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  9. City Man

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    A key question would be: Why would a Hull City XI be playing in a competition called the Thamesmouth Cup? Football goes regional in war time because the money and crowds are not there, and the railway network was used for the war effort not to ferry around footballers.
     
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  10. The Omega Man

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    This is what puzzles me
    http://www.ww1hull.org.uk/index.php/our-loses/the-sportsmen
    Kingston upon Hull War Memorial 1914 - 1918
    THE STORY OF HULL IN WORLD WAR ONE
    PTE, FREDERICK CHARLES CLARK, 7TH LEICESTER REGIMENT
    . BORN BRISTOL 1899. SON OF WALTER WILLER AND BENA CLARK, HEDON. FRED CLARK WAS A HULL CITY FOOTBALLER, WHO PLAYED CENTRE FORWARD AND SCORED BOTH GOALS IN THE THAMESMOUTH CUP. HE ENLISTED IN HULL AND TRANSFERRED TO THE LECIESTER REGIMENT. HE WAS KILLED IN ACTION ON THE 27/5/1918, AGED 19. HE IS LISTED ON THE SOISSONS MEMORIAL WHICH REMEMBERS ALMOST 4,000 BRITISH SOLDIERS WHO DIED IN THE BATTLES OF THE AISNE AND MARNE IN 1918, WHO HAVE NO KNOWN GRAVE.

    I have access to his photograph and service records.
     
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    It boils down to this: who says he was 'a Hull City footballer'?
    All the other stuff is official data like D.O.B etc, but this cup seems nonexistent on google, he's not on the radar of Mike Peterson or Chris Elton.
    Who did City play in the Thamesmouth Cup? What year? Where?
    People compiling these records often have zero interest in football let alone HCFC, so unless it's detailed specific verifiable data, it's as likely to be false as it's true.
     
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  12. Sir Cheshire Ben

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    Regional league competitions were played 15/16, 16/17, 17/18 & 18/19. I have a list of the fixtures City played, the results & players taking part. These appearances have not been used when calculating player appearance totals so it may be that he did represent us but it wouldn't have been recognised as our youngest player. Frederick Clark is not listed in any of the squads for the regional league games or in any of the teams for friendly games we played during the war.

    We played a number of friendly games against different Regiments during the war including one against The Leicester Regiment (April 14th 1917), don't have a team for their team but he wasn't in ours. Do you know when he enlisted?

    Not much use, I know, but whittled away an hour on a Sunday morning.
     
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    He may not have scored his two goals in the Thamesmouth Cup for Hull City. The obit might be badly worded.
     
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    I agree. That's the way it looks to me.
     
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    August 13-14 th, 2016.

    For 24 hours, Hull City AFC were TOP of the PL, allegedly the best in the world.
    After 112 years, we may have come of age.
    UTT, Come on City, come on City.
     
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    We came of age in 1966, but subsequent results merely obscured the fact. It's been just a Hull ' victimisation' kinda thing since then.
     
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    According to the caption, this is - Hull City supporters at The Boulevard, 1904

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    guess flat caps were in fashion....
     
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    That's a nice link.
     
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