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Time to rebuild for 2016/17

Discussion in 'Bristol City' started by Red Robin, Apr 23, 2016.

  1. NickH

    NickH Well-Known Member

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    I pretty sure Wagstaff's contract is up this summer, as is Derrick Williams' - El Abd is a bit of a drag, but at least we've not struggled to find clubs to loan him and take at least some of the wages out of our hands. I think you're being a touch unkind to suggest that no one would want Agard - I'm sure the majority of League One sides would be at least interested; it's just a question of whether the sums add up for all parties.

    I think the form we've shown since SC left has shown that we're not completely out of our depth at this level - we've relied a touch too heavily on our loan signings (particularly Tomlin) for my likings, but otherwise I'm satisfied that our level of 'deadwood' isn't nearly as much as many other clubs, meaning that there shouldn't be too much pressure in terms of 'A must leave, before you can sign B'.

    A very important summer indeed - get it wrong and we'll be amongst the favourites to go down, but get it right and we may be a surprise package.
     
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  2. RedorDead

    RedorDead Well-Known Member

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    Ched Evans has been out of the game too long now I think, he's also still got to go to trial again.
    You can imagine that some clubs are looking towards him ready to pounce if he gets not guilty verdict.
     
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  3. Red Robin

    Red Robin Well-Known Member

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    Personally Nick if i had spent the money SL has on bringing the gate into the 21st century.I would want to see the team play at the highest level,that being the prem.
    It is his money,and he is will do as he sees fit,but he has the resources to take city to the top if he wishes.
    Regards expenditure, i reckon we need to spend upto 30 million to put a side on the pitch to take us up.
    I agree with Lans comments above,the four outfield players plus O'Donnell are the only one good enough for regular starts next season.
    Interesting times ahead.
     
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  4. gdknac

    gdknac Well-Known Member

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    Yes, I agree with you both- Whatever we do wont be instantaneous. Rebuilding takes time and patience would be rewarded. A mid table finish next season would still represent success to me.
     
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  5. NickH

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    Answered like a politician!

    So to summarise:

    You say SL's money is his own to with as he wishes, but you think he ought to spend £30m between his own and the clubs' money to sign at least six players and that we're aiming for promotion next season.

    I think that'd be risky and even then wouldn't necessarily be enough to turn us into contenders (I expect there to be many talented sides in the Championship next season). I'd say, hopefully we can pay up to around £10m in transfer fees to sign five or six players (with at least three of those intended automatic starters), with maybe two loanees and that should raise our expectations to finish lower/mid table at least, but ideally top-half. Having a team capable of challenging for a playoff spot for 17/18 should be a realistic aim.
     
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  6. Premiershiporbust IV

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    So, no one has noticed Bobby Reid's storming finish to the season then...?

    All of a sudden, his confidence is up and he has started to add goals to his game and I think we are beginning to see the start of a VERY good player. I am looking forward to seeing his progress next year...
     
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  7. Red Robin

    Red Robin Well-Known Member

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    He has improved big time,big year next year for him, and Wes Burns.
     
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  8. Supcon72

    Supcon72 Well-Known Member

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    I would Love nothing more than for Bobby Reid to fulfil the potential we have all seen for a few years now. As people say, a make or break season for him next season.
     
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  9. NickH

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    Agreed, though depending on our summer transfer activity, it could be a tougher task for him to get game time. He'll need to take his chances when they come.
     
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  10. Redandy

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    Bobbys season has got better and better, i still say he needs a close season to work on his upper body strength to really set him up in this league as a permanent fixture.

    I am really excited at the thought of this summer, but also very worried too, If we cannot keep any of the loans ( mainly Tommo) there will be virtually a new team and with that comes bonding and gelling, which as we all know could take its time. This is why i think we must move quickly and get our targets, to do what SC did in our promotion season from L1, and get everyone together early and maybe even do another Africa trip to get everything as best as possible in place for the start of the season.
    otherwise if it all happens too late, and we start the new campaign badly.............................well you know!!
     
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  11. BrightredRickster

    BrightredRickster Well-Known Member

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    Do you think so ?
    Far as I can see, most of us couldn't manage a ---k in a brothel.
    Lets leave it to the professionals shall we ? Alternatively, I can come over tomorrow and show you how you should be doing your job. I don't know what it is, i have probably never done anything remotely like it but I'm such an arrogant t--tt that I believe I can do anything better than you…
    No offence :1980_boogie_down:
     
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    BrightredRickster Well-Known Member

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    He needs to go on a steak diet. Maybe he should pay Tomlin a visit and dine there every day (or drink guiness at weekends). Or both
     
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  13. banksyisourhero

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    He's the only player in the squad currently that looks like he could score goals regularly from midfield..

    Theo Walcott was 'advised' to bulk up.. look where that got him!
     
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  14. Mind the gap!

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    Learning to ride challenges is as equally important, he's started to do this and its paying off
     
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  15. Red Robin

    Red Robin Well-Known Member

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    Lee Tomlin first to sign,followed by Bradley Dack,and Naki Wells that is a good start peeps.
     
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  16. Tom_BCFC

    Tom_BCFC Billy Bibbit
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    Didn't even notice Naki Wells was on the pitch until he was subbed off
     
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  17. Red Robin

    Red Robin Well-Known Member

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    Think he is 4/5 highest scorer in the championship.

    Championship Top Scorers
    Andre Gray
    Burnley
    140 mins per goal

    3364 mins played
    24 Goals scored

    8 Assists
    Shots on targetTotal 53%
    44
    83
    Ross McCormack
    Fulham
    188 mins per goal

    3946 mins played
    21 Goals scored

    9 Assists
    Shots on targetTotal 57%
    58
    102
    Jonathan Kodjia
    Bristol City
    179 mins per goal

    3409 mins played
    19 Goals scored

    3 Assists
    Shots on targetTotal 50%
    50
    100
    Abel Hernández
    Hull
    147 mins per goal

    2784 mins played
    19 Goals scored

    2 Assists
    Shots on targetTotal 55%
    47
    85
    Tomer Hemed
    Brighton
    179 mins per goal

    3035 mins played
    17 Goals scored

    6 Assists
    Shots on targetTotal 50%
    41
    82
    Nahki Wells
    Huddersfield
    202 mins per goal

    3428 mins played
    17 Goals scored

    4 Assists
    Shots on targetTotal 58%
    57
    99
    Jordan Rhodes
    Middlesbrough
    208 mins per goal

    3328 mins played
    16 Goals scored

    2 Assists
    Shots on targetTotal 56%
    54
    97
    Chris Martin
    Derby
    241 mins per goal

    3619 mins played
    15 Goals scored

    10 Assists
    Shots on targetTotal 55%
    41
    75
    Fernando Forestieri
    Sheff Wed
    197 mins per goal

    2960 mins played
    15 Goals scored

    6 Assists
    Shots on targetTotal 53%
    47
    89
    Moussa Dembele
    Fulham
    224 mins per goal

    3361 mins played
    15 Goals scored

    6 Assists
    Shots on targetTotal 51%
    37
    72
    Alan Judge
    Brentford
    236 mins per goal

    3299 mins played
    14 Goals scored

    11 Assists
    Shots on targetTotal 50%
    47
    94
    Gary Hooper
    Sheff Wed
    158 mins per goal

    2057 mins played
    13 Goals scored

    4 Assists
    Shots on targetTotal 57%
    21
    37
    Sam Vokes
    Burnley
    252 mins per goal

    3279 mins played
    13 Goals scored

    4 Assists
    Shots on targetTotal 42%
    31
    74
    Lasse Vibe
    Brentford
    197 mins per goal

    2559 mins played
    13 Goals scored

    2 Assists
    Shots on targetTotal 57%
    34
    60
    Tom Ince
    Derby
    257 mins per goal

    3081 mins played
    12 Goals scored

    8 Assists
    Shots on targetTotal 46%
    37
    80
    Chris Wood
    Leeds
    233 mins per goal

    2792 mins played
    12 Goals scored

    4 Assists
    Shots on targetTotal 39%
    29
    75
    Clayton Donaldson
    Birmingham
    302 mins per goal

    3326 mins played
    11 Goals scored

    7 Assists
    Shots on targetTotal 60%
    29
    48
    Nick Blackman
    Derby
    231 mins per goal

    2540 mins played
    11 Goals scored

    3 Assists
    Shots on targetTotal 47%
    37
    78
    Tjaronn Chery
    QPR
    206 mins per goal

    2061 mins played
    10 Goals scored

    4 Assists
    Shots on targetTotal 46%
    30
    65
    Daryl Murphy
    Ipswich
    266 mins per goal

    2661 mins played
    10 Goals scored

    4 Assists
    Shots on targetTotal 42%
    26
    62
    Brett Pitman
    Ipswich
    230 mins per goal

    2296 mins played
    10 Goals scored

    3 Assists
    Shots on targetTotal 53%
    33
    62
    Johnny Russell
    Derby
    324 mins per goal

    2913 mins played
    9 Goals scored

    8 Assists
    Shots on targetTotal 54%
    22
    41
    Mirco Antenucci
    Leeds
    240 mins per goal

    2163 mins played
    9 Goals scored

    4 Assists
    Shots on targetTotal 55%
    28
    51
    Joe Mason
    Wolves
    286 mins per goal

    2572 mins played
    9 Goals scored

    1 Assists
    Shots on targetTotal 73%
    32
    44
    Nélson Oliveira
    Nottm Forest
    230 mins per goal

    2071 mins played
    9 Goals scored

    0 Assists
    Shots on targetTotal 52%
    37
    71
     
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  18. RedorDead

    RedorDead Well-Known Member

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    Said the same to my wife, that I did not even know he was playing
     
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  19. Red Robin

    Red Robin Well-Known Member

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    Think he was dreaming of playing in a 20000+ Ashton Gate next season.
     
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  20. Tom_BCFC

    Tom_BCFC Billy Bibbit
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    We can get better strikers than Naki Wells
     
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