Why Football Fans Need Safe Standing

Listen to internationals at Wembley where they give loads of tickets to school kids. A load of shrill voices doesn't improve the atmosphere.

 

Any fan could have told them that years ago. But that wouldn't have required lots of well paid people, the vast majority who have never stood up or sung a song at a football match, pontificating all day and then retiring for the night to their 5 star hotel to eat and drink on expenses.

 

Neither does empty seats.

 

We weren't well paid in the RAF.

Oh you meant politicians?

Hotel bit rang a bell is all.

 

You used to stay in 5 star hotels on expenses in the RAF?

 

Seats full of people not joining in with any singing or chanting doesn't either.

 

agreed
but more chance of singing if there are more people there.

 

Not always.

Roughed in a couple of B&Bs in N Germany once.

The cellar bar and kegelbahn made up for it tbh.

 

It'll happen ive no doubt

 

It will happen as quickly as a sale of Hull City.

 

Proud to say the 2 juniors sing as loud as there mad uncle.

Would love the north stand to be all standing and £10 for all.

Without reducing prices for under 21s the Allams will NEVER fill the stadium.

 

Probably, I believe even if the EPL etc approve it, it is still subject to a bill in parliament being passed.

 

I've had several smashed shins when we've scored (obvioulsy they're fairly well healed now!)
Even fell onto the woman in front of me once...and broke her glasses case

She was probably delighted when I was evicted!

 

Still a long way to go educating people on safe standing. Even the term itself implies that standing is inherently unsafe which is an absurd notion.

As ever, it's one rule for football and another for everything else. Music concerts have people standing without any question of banning it on safety grounds and there's often massive crowd surges. Rail seating would have barriers to prevent such surges making it infinitely safer than the concerts which no one bats an eyelid at.

There's for some reason this association between Hillsborough and standing which really needs to be broken because it's complete bollocks. It's a documented fact that standing was not to blame. Yet still the fan groups in Liverpool are largely anti standing. Some even saying it'd be a backward step. Standing played absolutely no part in their tragedy so why is there still this implied link? They're peddling a complete myth.

 

It'll be before we get new owners

 

Well, I'm 66 so I don't expect to be around to experience standing up with a rail to lean on unfortunately.

 

wouldn't happen with safe standing!!!

 

Exactly

 

There are some very informed commets on this page which is good to see. I am all for "Safe Standing" if the law is changed and I would welcome it. However as stated in a previous post there will be a large cost involved in converting to rail seating which will need to be recovered from somewhere. In the case of the KCOM stadium there is very little scope to increase the capacity without increasing the number of turnstiles and exits. The 8 minute rule to a place of safety does apply and the existing ingress and egress facilities leave very little scope for increasing the capacity.