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Discussion in 'Hull City' started by Craigo, Nov 3, 2011.

  1. DMD

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    Some gypsies live in houses, some travelers rarely move.
     
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  2. Barchullona

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    Travellers aren't a race. Romanies are but they are few and far between.
     
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  3. Steven Toast

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    To be fair, gypsie curses can be pretty nasty. I'd hate to think what a traveler curse could do to you...
     
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  4. Barchullona

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    Yes, travellers who don't travel. But are considered some sort of minority deserving protection. Funny old world.
     
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  5. bum_chinned_crab

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    Ahh right, so they're all like that then and have a penchant for it? And here's me thinking it was just an example of a group of people...

    Saying that gypsies have a 'penchant for fighting, poor treatment of women and stealing things' is EXACTLY the same as saying Asians have a penchant for smelling of curry and running corner shops, Irish people have a penchant for being thick and Jews have a penchant for being tight with money.

    I could go on... they're all incredibly racist.

    And I didn't say travelers (sic) are defined by violence, crime and misogyny? You did.
     
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  6. bum_chinned_crab

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    I just accurately quoted you. Which part of it is incorrect or 'sad'?

    If you didn't mean nobody, then maybe you shouldn't have said it.
     
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  7. originallambrettaman

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    Knowing what a pedantic twat you are, I should obviously have put 'pretty much nobody', but I couldn't be arsed and I still can't.
     
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  8. Barchullona

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    Jews are a race. Telling Hitler you had given up the faith didn't work.

    How are Muslims considered an ethnic group? It is a religion, you or I, or anybody else, could adopt the Muslim faith tomorrow, are Anglicans, Protestants, Seventh Day Adventists or Catholics ethnic groups?

    Blair decided all travellers were to be considered an ethnic minority in need of protection whether they are Irish or not. Ironic that so many Irish travellers are here now due to the Irish government bringing in legislation restricting the rights of travellers to roll up where they like and enforcing trespass laws, something our government appears unwilling to do for some reason.
     
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  9. Barchullona

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    Or saying people from Brid have a penchant for being incredibly good-looking, being gifted and highly intelligent.
     
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    Really? The descendants of a gypsy singing in Hull.

     
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  11. bum_chinned_crab

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    I think you mean accurate twat :emoticon-0148-yes:
     
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  12. Steven Toast

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    They follow a strict code of ethics which I imagine a lot of people in modern society would have a problem with if it spilled over into their lives. Are you aware of said code? And we aren't talking about gypsies here, as DMD said, different ethnic group. They have a penchant for it because it's the way they live. They have to be married by 18 or it's seen as 'shameful' and arguments are settled through honour (bare knuckle boxing). You don't think that some people outside that community would view that as even a little bit awful? I'm not talking about this as an assumption, I'm telling you that's what it is like. If you think otherwise then you're terribly naive. It's not to say that every single traveler is like that, but it's the culture they've been bred into.

    There's a fantastic book, Gypsy Girl, by Rosie McKinley that I was lent by a uni mate. It highlights the struggles these people face, but also the problems she faced growing up in the traveler community. It's autobiographical, written under a pen name.
     
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  13. DMD

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    "travelers" is a generic term, they're not an homogeneous group.
     
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  14. Barchullona

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    Don't think anyone had anything against the proper Romany gypsies, who used to roll up every year, sharpening knives, fixing pots and pans, selling pegs and generally not causing much bother. The new era of "travellers" who roll up, churning up playing fields and the like and leaving a trail of filth and litter behind to be cleaned up at our expense are a different matter, strange how all these civil enforcement officers who fine grannies for dropping a sweet paper or some mother whose toddler has dropped a biscuit from a buggie never manage to do any enforcing, civil or otherwise on the travelling community. And you can bet that despite all the talk of a crackdown on fly tipping they will still carry on regardless with no repercussions.
     
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    So was Rose a Gypsy or a traveller?
     
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    A travelling Gypsy...
     
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    A Romany guitarist-

     
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  18. Steven Toast

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    She was a traveler. Email her and ask her why she called her book Gypsy Girl.
     
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  19. Steven Toast

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    Got to play this now...

     
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  20. Barchullona

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    Why didn't you, with your penchant for research? Has she sold books under a false pretence? Was it a case of fake news? We need to know.
     
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