What's troubling Poch?

I was at that game and remembered being really snnoyed and surprised at Trippier's arrogance when that happened.

 

Who would buy Alli? And what sort of money?

 

No idea. But we'd get more for him than we would for the other 6 combined. £70m at least, which is a shame considering the fact that barely a year ago he was worth over £100m.

 

I’ll blame everyone if I need to...including Levy

1 trophy in 20 years under his watch

Longest trophy drought at Spurs since the 60’s under his watch

The hunger for silverware has been sucked out of our club wether you like it or not. That DNA does not exist anymore. It was on its way out anyway but ENIC made damn sure it totally disappeared. They bought us for £21 mill...we are valued at over a Billion


Maybe trophies cabinets cost too much, **** knows but that is laughable stuff.

 

None of this changes the fact that Poch doesn’t want to work with them

Wanyama was laughing his bollocks off when he mis kicked the ball...that’s not Poch’s fault.

I find it funny how people claim to know **** all yet know enough to say someone might be wrong

Lipton knows more about the goings on at Spurs than all of us put together

 

It was Martin Lipton who said it on the radio this morning, the guy who wrote ‘White Hart Lane, the glory years’

I reckon he’s got a better clue than most and knows Poch personally.


Why didn’t he leave? Because he didn’t want to...he wants them out of the door instead...good on him. Why has Levy been in a Coma for 2 of the last 3 windows is the real question when we have such a manager taking us to such heights... and we are just seeing the domino affect...people are focusing on the last piece to fall way too much.

 

Then this is all on Pochettino, if true.
That's half the first XI and literally the whole starting defence, plus the two main holding players.
Alienating them all is just ****ing stupid. Who sells 9 starters in one transfer window and replaces them successfully?

Wanting rid of Vertonghen alone is ridiculous. He's still one of our best performers and we'd get **** all for him.
He was our best defender last season, including a notable MOTM performance at wing-back against Dortmund.
How much would it cost to replace him with a younger player on a similar level?
Add another eight men to that and we'd be talking new stadium money. Ludicrous and utterly unrealistic.

 

Trying to sell them now because he saw no point in selling them when Levy forgot where his wallet was, I assume.

He had a little cull when he came...he didn’t risk the 2nd one because he probably got to know Levy a bit better

Point is he doesn’t want to work with certain people anymore. You have to accept our Golden era is on its way out. I recall when we lost the title race with Lesta and were hunting Chelsea down the following year and some of us were saying...in football you have to make the ‘now’ count. Others were saying, Naah this bunch will mature and the ‘trophies will come’. Looks like the trophies didn’t come but all the issues of age and a squad in decline, have come.

Regardless of the personal affections with individuals. Like I said in my original post this morning....I also don’t want Jan sold...so therefore on that point I’m in disagreement with Poch over that...but just that.

 

If he doesn't want to work with most of the squad, then he should quit.
Asking for them to be replaced in one window is unrealistic, to say the least. It also doesn't speak well of his man management skills.
This is his squad. He's been in charge of them for a long time now, in Premier League terms. If he's upset them all, then it's on him.

 

yeah there were a few transfer windows a few years ago when Spurs needed to be brave, ultimately all the talk was about the stadium and players were bought.

Now they have the stadium built but the squad needs major rebuilding because of neglect.

 

I was thinking in the amount of money he likes to spend. I don't think he'd be happy with a nil spend transfer window!

 

Maybe he just thinks they are **** for what he wants?

Maybe this window it has come to the surface because once again...time brings pressure. Poch is the one who lost more than anyone due to us having 2 barren transfer windows.

Levy can hide behind the stadium and the players are living off our deprived years and their very good campaigns in the last few. Poch is the one who ultimately suffered due to Levy taking his eye off the pitch.

This is the long game showing its hand...this hasn’t happened overnight.

Poch ****ed up by being too honest...he shouldn’t have told them. He should have tried to sell them behind their backs and Levy should support him.

 

Managers have to deal with inadequate players all the time, unless they're Guardiola. That's part of the job.
Levy took his eye off the ball, as I've repeatedly said in the past, but it's down to Pochettino to play the hand that he's dealt.
If he doesn't like it, then he knows what to do. Having a sulk isn't on anyone else but him.

 

Yeah I don’t think sulking is the way forward at all. He’s sulking because he’s too romantic/emotional...I hope he gets over it.

 

We didn't have sufficient income to be 'brave' in the transfer windows a few years back. We spent all we were allowed to under ffp. The stadium is the solution to this problem.

 

I'm not sure you would. Hes been in and out of football for a year and a bit now with injuries and i would be surprised if he went for 70.

Saying that though there are a lot of stupid clubs around, mine included

 

Thats a lie surely.

Stadium spend doesnt count towards ffp.

Cl runs, top 4 finishes alllied to zero net spend and one of the lowest wage spends and you think you were running close to ffp?

Not sure i believe that. Plus its a 3 year rolling average which provides even bigger leeways.

 

In today's mental market I reckon we would. You got £60m for Morata FFS. He still has a huge reputation from his first 2-3 years at the club, plus the "I play for Ingerland" VAT, and the fact that he's still relatively young.

The issue is that over the past 18 months he has become a bit of a luxury player, drifting in and out of games and pissing about far too much when in possession. No question he has enormous talent, but the hunger and fight that characterised his early career is all but gone now. Maybe the fame got to him, maybe the injuries got to him, who knows? And so he doesn't really fit Poch's philosophy anymore. Plenty of teams out there who have no problem playing luxury players, we're just not one of them.

Bottom line is we only have a handful of players left who could fetch £60m+ if put up for sale, and they are: Kane, Son and Alli. If push comes to shove and we need to sell in order to rebuild, I think it is pretty obvious which of those three most Spurs fans would choose to sell.

 

Possibly a small exaggeration. We generally about broke even from 2013 to 2017. No stadium costs were charged to P&L during that period. We could have probably spent about £20m more per season with little risk. But our main issue was that our income was £200m lower than our nearest competitors in the top 6. That was the problem that needed to be addressed and it was. It's still a bit lower but now in the same ball park. There was no hope of regular trophies or staying in the top 4 with that sort of handicap. No other Club, with the exception of Man City, has even come close to closing that gap.

 

Don't chase trophies.
Chase the Golden Ticket that is top four.
Getting knocked out of the domestic cups has become less important than dropping a point in a 38 game PL season because of the potential income loss if it costs you top four.