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Ralph - Stick or Twist..?

Discussion in 'Southampton' started by Lambertissier, Apr 19, 2021.

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Ralph - Can He turn This Around..?

  1. Yes, stick

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  2. No, twist

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    9.5%
  1. LincolnSaint

    LincolnSaint Well-Known Member

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    You can find games under Ron as "unacceptable" as losing to a 9 man team and losing 9-0 twice?
    Where?
     
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    When we lost to the 9 man team, did you somehow fail to notice the weather, or the state of the pitch? The ball was hardly moving across the grass it was so waterlogged.
     
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  3. Le Tissier's Laces

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    Frankly I can't be arsed to look, but I'm sure there's bad, bad losses in there, with a far, far better squad of players. Did you miss the period where we couldn't beat an egg under him? I'm sure you'll have been calling for his head at that point too.
     
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  4. LincolnSaint

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    Not really.

    Thought he was bang average, results started going our way so I thought I was wrong, then it turned out our purple patch was the blip, not the poor results

    The top for 23hrs and good in the bundesliga trophy doesn't really cut it for me I'm afraid.

    Posters on this board have gone through every single excuse going to shield him from criticism, in a way I admire their creativity, I'm just not sure why.
     
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    Good job the other team didn't have to play on it as well then.
     
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  6. Le Tissier's Laces

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    A blip for a whole calendar year. Curious.
     
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    They were ahead by the time the pitch got bad. Yes we conceded poor goals in that game but we didn't play badly. The pitch started getting bad when Hendrick was sent off. It's far easier to defend on a pitch like that than attack.
     
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    Would you consider our results since January as a blip?
     
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  9. LincolnSaint

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    With 9 men? Seriously, take off the Ralph specs for 2 minutes and ask yourself whether that is in anyway acceptable
     
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    I think you need to take off the anti-Ralph specs TBH.
     
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  11. LincolnSaint

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    16 minutes against 9 men without a single shot on target, coming off the back of (another) 9-0 defeat?

    Would you have accepted that under Hughes/Puel/Pellegrino?
     
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    No because Hughes and Pellegrino are terrible managers. Puel just bored the life out of me, League Cup aside.
     
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  13. Le Tissier's Laces

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    Four months is more of a blip than one year, which is your 'blip'. So going by the parameters you've very kindly set, it hardly even registers.

    Back in the real world though, yes, it's a terrible run of form. Nobody is denying that.
     
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    Hughes and Pellegrino, no. Puel possibly.

    Because Hughes and Pellegrino never, ever showed any sign of being able to do what Ralph HAS done.
     
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    Manchester City 6-1 Southampton
    Manchester City 5-2 Southampton

    On paper, doesn't look like a huge amount of difference between the 2 games. But I was at the 6-1 and my god it was depressing. The 5-2, we gave City a game, we were just beaten by an extraordinary team.
     
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  16. Le Tissier's Laces

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    Thankfully, looking at the results of this poll, the vast majority of people have their heads screwed on.
     
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    That's changing though, and will continue to change as the season finishes and we continue to play gash. If this poll was cast wider (away from the more seasoned posters on here) I'd imagine the result would be markedly different. Lucky for the players and manager that they're not playing in front of the fans
     
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  18. Le Tissier's Laces

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    Well yes, if the fans are as short-sighted as you're being, I agree.

    I think most fans are smart enough to realise that this season is a bit of an odd one to be judging too severely on. They also realise that he's trying to manage a pretty average, thin team with his hands tied, and on the other side that, no, he's not the messiah.

    I'm not sure why the 'more seasoned posters' on here might have different opinions to other football fans? That's an odd presumption. But then, odd presumptions are your bag it seems.

    92% is a very, very big lead, even if that does shift a little by end of season.
     
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  19. Le Tissier's Laces

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    The oddest thing for me though, is that it really feels like you (and others) absolutely would prefer him not to turn things around, just so you can be proved right. That's very strange.
     
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  20. tomw24

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    Yes there were definitely some rather smug "I told you so's" after the semi-final.
     
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