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Jose Mourinho.

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  1. SpursDisciple

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    Hands up who spotted anti Spurs bias in Jamie Redknapp
     
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    We saved at least £20m sacking the ubermensch and we're "clowns"?

    **** off, Jamie Redknapp
     
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  3. Dier Hard

    Dier Hard G'day mate!

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    Jamie can do one.

    He's more known these days for being the thick one on A League Of Their Own than actually being a former footballer.
     
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    "They sacked my dad because he lost it when the idea of the England job came up! <wah> "
     
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  5. Diego

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    How did you manage to save that much?
     
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    Must have missed the memo when Jamie Redknapp was appointed Levy's personal contract lawyer.
     
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  7. "Thanks for that Brian"

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  8. SpursDisciple

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    On the whole, I hope it is not true. However, if he used the opportunity to tell some real home truths (rather than just blame shifting) it may be a good thing. Whatever we think of Mourinho, he knows the game and if he was able to tell the likes of Doherty, Winks, Dier and Aurier the unvarnished truth without the worry of losing their support, then go ahead. I find it strange that he would want to do it - surely after getting sacked you just want out. It may be a sign he cared about the players. If it was to a newspaper, then a different matter.
    Of course if he just yelled at them them, telling them they are ****, then no - call security.
     
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    If what he says is true, that we got rid cheaply if sitting below 6th, then I suspect he was Mourinho's representative.
     
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    From what's been said elsewhere, the talk of a £30m payoff wasn't entirely accurate, as the terms were

    £30m if he was sacked when we were in the top four
    £15-20m if he was sacked when we were in the top six
    £10m or less if he was sacked if we weren't in the top six
    Add to that European football was a factor in his payout

    As we were in seventh after the Everton game, that entitled him to the lowest figure, so we pulled the trigger while also being able to say "Well, we're not in Europe"
     
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  12. The Huddlefro

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    One of the things I’ll maintain that Jose had right was that too many in the squad had the wrong attitudes. Don’t get me wrong, the way he went about fixing it was not a universal success by any means, but his diagnosis was in a large part correct.
     
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    He also said the attitude was fine but the players weren't good enough. We got every excuse under the Sun from Jose when things weren't working, the worse the results, the more his excuses got weird(the Toby & Serge covid test lie) as he tried to maintain a view that he and the coaches were excellent. Even when he joined he told Levy he'd been working on a new system that never appeared. Everytime he talks he has an agenda so I don't take anything he's said as accurate.
     
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    I agree that as things went on the excuses piled up. I’m talking about when he first arrived and what he said in the press and in the Amazon doc during those first weeks and months.

    By the end, as you say, he was out to protect his own reputation.
     
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  15. "Thanks for that Brian"

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    It was also partially a self-fulfilling prophecy. Some players don't react well to being constantly dug out, particularly in public. He slated Shaw at United and his confidence collapsed. I would reckon that Dele looks confident but isn't beneath a fairly thin veneer.

    Mourinho's supposedly a nice enough bloke but he acts like a twat.

    He has one setting for those who aren't producing and his sidekick was a cocky, unapproachable dickhead, by all accounts. Only the strongest individuals are going to thrive on that.

    Basically, he was ****ing up on multiple fronts from just a few weeks into the job and after slightly over a year, it was over because the players are the most important thing, the manager is there to facilitate getting the best out of them. With him, that's not the case.
     
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    As I've said before, I think that you need a balance with the manager and his closest coaching staff to give you that carrot and stick.
    Harry Redknapp was nice to a lot of players and got his best out of them by putting his arm around them and talking them up all the time.
    Joe Jordan was there to do the sergeant major bit and kick any arses that needed kicking. They can dislike the assistant, if they want. Who cares?

    Pochettino fell down by trying to be mates with too many people, but not having a ****bag to keep the ****ers in line.
    It worked for a while, because he came in and kicked a bunch of them out immediately, but failed to maintain that stance.
    Mourinho went the other way by being a ****er and having another ****er as his assistant.
    It appears to have pissed a lot of players off.
     
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  17. "Thanks for that Brian"

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    The old 'Good Taylor' and 'Bad Clough' double act.

    At least one member of the coaching team needs to be able to befriend the players and get to know them. Balance in all things....
     
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  18. KingHotspur

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    I will remember the Jose Mourinho era with bad memories and as a low point in the history of Spurs

    I’ve never ever liked Jose Mourinho as a man or manager and never will.

    I really hope it’s the last we see of him in English football
     
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    It probably won't be, some Chinese or Saudi takeover is going to install him sooner rather than later
     
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  20. KingHotspur

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    Yeh probably, the only way I’d like to see him back is at a club when he could get relegated. Somewhere like Newcastle would be ideal as I don’t really like them <laugh>
     
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