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What 3 things made you vote to leave Europe ...

Discussion in 'Sunderland' started by Smug in Boots, May 30, 2021.

  1. TopCat_

    TopCat_ Well-Known Member

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    How and when is that going to happen? The EU loving politicians are still in office
     
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  2. rooch 3

    rooch 3 Well-Known Member

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    Illegal immigration, Unelected EU politicians with there snouts in the trough and just the basic arrogance of the bastards. If there had been a third option of reverting back to the original common market there would probably of been 80+ % in favour.
     
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    gelders pie Well-Known Member

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    I've dropped the French wine purely because of Macron.
     
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  4. Sunderpitt

    Sunderpitt Well-Known Member

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    Could not have put it better myself!

    Mind the EU seemed to have pizzed of the Swiss as well... takes a lot to rile the yodellers.. 7 years negotiations down the drain.
     
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  5. Smug in Boots

    Smug in Boots Well-Known Member

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    If the low paid workers vanish Lincolnshire will grind to a standstill
    ...

    ... they're working round the clock picking crops during the season.
     
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    spirit of 73 Well-Known Member

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    Teesport and the mayor is making a drive to develop and create jobs since leaving, the relocation of tax offices up north. I hope they continue with their promises, latest talk is of major investment in the financial sectors, a strong belief in post brexit britain by money men is a good indicator and now the EU burocrats are being told to start dealing with us without threats or it could lead to a further push for sovereignty by other members. EU member states are sitting up and taking notice of independence and what it could mean to them. Gives me great hope for our future.
     
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  7. spirit of 73

    spirit of 73 Well-Known Member

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    I don't think EU labour would have stuck in our throat as much if the farmers had housed and cared for them and not relied on tax payers footing the bill with benefits to enhance their profits
     
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  8. Smug in Boots

    Smug in Boots Well-Known Member

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    I agree, its an imperfect system. Sadly we pay double benefits, one lot for the English who don't want the jobs and another for the Polish who do.
     
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    spirit of 73 Well-Known Member

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    Agree mate if wages were paid at a higher rate then maybe English unemployed would be tempted then top up with EU labour with the farmers subsidising them, but you have also to look at the likes of Asda who put ridiculous prices on fruit, veg and meat that drive down the profit margins. We need to be sensible at what we are prepared to pay for food.
     
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  10. The Exile II

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    When they're under pressure they always go to bullying as a first resort. Countries have had enough of it.
     
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  11. Sidthemackem

    Sidthemackem Newcastle United 0-1 Cambridge United
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    I think Brexit will be positive for both sides. For us, we get independence back, never having been entirely committed to the European project and for the EU people will get a bit of honesty about its direction of travel. It's been heading down the federalist path for years and just assuming powers from member states as it went. Now it will have to come clean about wanting a centralized system and it will be up to the citizens to decide if that's what they want. The EU lost my support when it just repackaged the proposed EU constitution in the Lisbon Treaty after the Dutch and French rejected it in referendums. The contempt it showed for democracy was breathtaking.

    Mikhail Gorbachev: the most puzzling recent development in politics is the desire of certain politicians to recreate the Soviet Union in western Europe. Sums it up for me. When Cameron went to the EU in 2014 it was on the back of a UKIP win in a national UK election (the 2014 European Parliamentary elections) and they didn't do a thing, thinking there couldn't possibly be any adverse developments from it. Now they know better, although what they'll do about it remains to be seen.
     
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  12. Porterfield73

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    good post, EU is a ticking time bomb, with several members poised to break away if they see any sign of theUK making a success of it. next one out will collapse the whole deck, hopefully we'll be well ahead of the game by then.
     
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  13. rooch 3

    rooch 3 Well-Known Member

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    Is that not what all super market businesses do make 2.5 billion profit but have workers on benefits so basically the working man is just paying for their staff. How the f uck does that work?
     
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    Thats been the case for a long time.

    Back in the late 60's I was stationed at RAF Scampton, just outside of Lincoln.
    I would regularly hitch-hike up to Sunderland at weekends, going back on Sunday nights.
    As the harvesting season got underway, it would be like Blackpool Illuminations as I got nearer to Camp.
    I often got back at well after midnight, but huge machines with blazing headlights, in field after field, were beavering away with a trail of 'labourers' (I assume), following on behind them.

    Ah, nostalgia.
    Mind you, it's not what it used to be!!!!
     
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  15. rooch 3

    rooch 3 Well-Known Member

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    I used to manage a farm there at Grange de lings bloody flat isn’t it, one of the red arrows took the chimney stack off the house one of my lads lived in.
     
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    one gary owers Well-Known Member

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    Are you saying Brit's are low skilled
     
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    Funnily enough I'm reading 'The Last Empire' about the end of the USSR and the similarities are striking.
     
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  18. rooch 3

    rooch 3 Well-Known Member

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    Some I’ve seen don’t reach the high standard of low mate.
     
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    You may be a low standard I however are not
     
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  20. rooch 3

    rooch 3 Well-Known Member

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    That doesn’t make sense <ok>
     
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