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Should the UK remain a part of the EU or leave?

Poll closed Jun 24, 2016.
  1. Stay in

    56 vote(s)
    47.9%
  2. Get out

    61 vote(s)
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  1. kiwiqpr

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    take it easy
     
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    An American fast food outlet now trolling the French
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    Dave Cash

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    French are at it in the channel..
    RNLI are meeting a French SAR right now 4miles inside British waters Seeker has already collected from the French 2miles inside British Waters
    Time to STOP BF and RNLI from putting to sea unless it's an Emergency which these are NOT
     
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    I'm sure you considered long and hard before copying this ****e, Kiwi. What the **** is it supposed to mean?
     
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    i think hes saying if the french can escort them into british waters then they can also pick them up and take thewm back to france
    i think hes upset the border force and the rnli are being used as a taxi service in an illegal people smuggling ring
     
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    David C Bannerman
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    Apparently the real reason the French can’t recall their Ambassador from the UK, as with Australia & USA, is because they are part of the EU and thereby bound by its common foreign policy for relations with the UK. Whoops!
     
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    This energy crisis is fun, isn’t it? Capitalism at its best. The privatised and fragmented retail energy business close to collapse as smaller providers go bust buying expensive wholesale gas, and the taxpayer doubtless to step in to bribe, sorry ‘loan’ cash to the bigger providers to take over all the customer accounts left at risk. Then pass on the price rises to us.

    Meanwhile food supplies threatened by a lack of the carbon dioxide needed for virtually all elements of the food processing system, from stunning animals before they are killed to packaging. The shortage is caused by US owned CF Industries stopping production at its two fertilster plants in the U.K., and apparently making fertiliser also provides 60% of the UKs carbon dioxide needs. They are closed because wholesale gas prices are so high that it’s not profitable to continue production.

    Thankfully we have the most economically left wing government since the seventies as far as industry is concerned (it and it’s followers are in denial about this of course) despite its ‘conservative’ badge, and populism demands that they will somehow pay their way through this. But it’s not a policy, it’s a staggering from one expensive crisis to the next, loading the future with debt.

    Johnson ‘this will get better as the market sorts itself out’. He’s a cretin. We have had little wind energy because of the weather, fires removing supplies of energy from Europe, maintenance reducing our own gas production, issues at nuclear plants, reopening coal fired stations… and gas prices now 5 times higher than last year, going up more than anywhere else. Central planning please.

    The certainty - those least able to pay more will be given no choice.
     
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    There were 70 energy 'suppliers' (they should more accurately be called retailers, I would say) in the UK at the start of this year and there are expected to be as few as ten by the end of the year with so many going bust. Why not re-nationalise the whole thing and go back to just one? Central planning indeed.
     
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    These 70 firms don’t actually generate or provide any of the infrastructure for energy supply. They simply buy energy (from the same sources) and contribute to the various companies providing the infrastructure, and sell power under a variety of packages. Price differences result from their competitive attempts to capture customers and cost differences in their back office and billing systems. They add absolutely no value but obviously put up prices so they can make a profit. Simply middle men in the supply chain, competing for those customers who shop around for the best prices. The best prices seem to have been provided by the small, weak, traders and now the big ones, the ten that will be left, are reluctant to pick up these customers on good, cheap, non profitable deals. So the government ie the taxpayer, will have to bribe them to do it.

    I find the structure of the U.K. energy market completely bewildering.
     
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    That's why I said they should be called retailers rather than suppliers. You described this government as economically left wing - a genuinely left wing government would re-nationalise all the utilities and other natural monopolies.
     
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    Temperature could have mentioned the British practice of using Fahrenheit when it's hot, Centigrade when it's cold
     
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    Absolutely agree the utilities and trains should be re-nationalised, and any profits pumped back into improving the networks……it’s strange though that many on the left, who agree with re-nationalisation, also are vociferous in their support of the EU, who in the future are making it neigh on impossible to do that very thing, and look to open up much of Europe’s rail network to the private sector.
    Of course that’s a simplistic view and the rules are very complicated, however the principle stands…the EU is not the saviour of working people.
     
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    Liz Truss engaged in a very important phone call holding the phone upside down.
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    I've never come across that! Always centigrade for me for weather.

    I have fallen into the bad habit of using farengeit when BBQing as a lot of the recipies I use are American.
     
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    I use Centigrade too. But for the red top papers, it's 80 degrees when it's hot and minus 2 when it's cold!
     
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    Depends who she's talking to. Could be the political equivalent of Nelson putting the telescope to his eyepatch
     
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    maybe shes talking to australia
     
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    Have you only just realised that Wills ?
    Those in charge can syphon off billions in public money to give to their friends, invade foreign countries for their own greed and murder those who try to speak out.

    They aren’t like us…but we allow it to go on
     
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