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Off Topic International Break Thread

Discussion in 'Tottenham Hotspur' started by PleaseNotPoll, Sep 4, 2018.

  1. PleaseNotPoll

    PleaseNotPoll Well-Known Member
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    He mixes it up. They have to be prepared for him to do anything, really.
     
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  2. littleDinosaurLuke

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    He’s certainly had plenty of both - as most top goalscorers do, but it was goals per games as you know.
    His penalty stars are freakish though - 18 goals from 22 taken (Rooney had 7/7, Lineker 4/5, Charlton 3/4). Far more penalties seem to be awarded for England these days and in international football generally.
     
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  3. littleDinosaurLuke

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    Handball in the area is an issue.
    It’s apparently unnatural to move your arms for leverage or balance, but it is natural to run around like Michael Flatley :emoticon-0104-surpr
     
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    I think that's due to the number of games as well as penalties being taken by one person.
    I might be misremembering but I'm sure they were spread out more, unless you had a specialist.
    Rooney may only have taken 7, but did he take all of them during his time with England?
     
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  5. SpursDisciple

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    Beckham would take most in the early part of Rooney's England career.
     
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  6. PleaseNotPoll

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    Him and Lampard.
    Beckham took 7 and scored 5. Lampard took 11 and scored 9.
     
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  7. The Huddlefro

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    Lampard did some for a while too IIRC
     
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    I'm saying nothing...

    Colombia scored twice in 5 minutes after the break and it ended 2-2.
    Davinson Sanchez was an unused sub.
     
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    Brilliant! I've said several times that the commentators use of the term "not in a natural position" makes no sense because it's the hands behind the back thing that is completely unnatural. But you've cracked it with that description of it being like Flatley.*

    * though I think it was in the Simpsons once they found a hidden or lost book called "Irish Dancing Vol.2, Hand Movements" or something like that.
     
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    I did have to check if that was the keeper Jeff Vetere blurted out our interest in

    No, it wasn't
     
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  11. The Changing Man

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    More games against poorer players who are more likely to commit fouls, as well as VAR giving more 'dubious' decisions. But its certainly a stick with which beat Harry on social media today, I have lost count of the number people stating he is not fit to lace the boots of Rooney! and that all penalties should be removed from individual goal stats.
     
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    I’ve never thought penalties diminish a player’s record. Harder to put away than a two yard tap in, which most good strikers get.
     
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    If it was about total yardage that the goals were scored from then Sir Bob would probably still be some way out in front.
     
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    I seem to remember that penalties were quite unusual but then there were not so many players falling over. Players now feel a touch and down they go. The ref has to then decide if that was actually a foul or not. Players in England and Scotland did not do this it's something they have learnt from Europe and South America.
    When I payed football in 1732 you just got laughed at by BOTH teams if you went over too easily. Pansy was a popular description.
     
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    Just rehashing what was discussed last year for Kane.
    Specifically, he has :

    1. an "open play" strike rate comparable to Lineker but
    close to 50% lower than that of Greavsie.

    2. to get 12 more goals from "open play" to surpass Greavsie


    My money would be on #2 being achieved by the end of 2025.
     
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    Absolutely right, I played most of my competitive football in the 1980s, I played right back on Saturdays in a reasonably good local league and centre forward on Sundays for a pub team. In both positions I would be sent off most weeks if the games 'laws' from today were implemented back then. As a full back you were always 'allowed' at least one assault on your winger,( a la Stuart Pearce), and he was expecting it and as long as he got up afterwards that was fine. As a centre forward you always left something on the goalkeeper the first few times you went in with him and you expected the same back, and until the ref had a word with me I would leave my foot in. You literally only went to ground when you had no choice, and even then you didn't often get a free kick.
     
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    A couple of days late, but apart from that...
     
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    The watershed moment was Michael Owen's dive for a pen in the 1998 WC. I remember the initial reaction was how could one of our players dive!! It just wasn't done before that. But because it was against the Argies the feeling quickly changed to - well it's against the Argies so why not do to them what they often do, it's about time we started "playing the game" - which is a bit of an ironic term. Became more acceptable in our national team after that.
     
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    Emerson reportedly limped off in Brazil's friendly with Morocco
     
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    1732? I guess after 13 years you had to give up football for the Jacobite Rebellion.
     
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