If Rangers FC die, so does Celtic FC

First thing is first, i do not believe for 1 minute that Rangers will be demoted from the SPL. But what if they did? What if they were forced to start from the 3rd Division up as a new club.

Well folks, that would be the end of Scottish football.

Without a strong Rangers, Celtic would be the best team in the league and by some distance. Just look at the gap between 2nd and 3rd each year. And lets face it Celtic are not and would not be welcome in England.

Although it would be expected Rangers rocket back up the leagues it could take time before they are back to being the number 1 team in Scotland. This could see the SPL go very stale. If it goes stale and there is no healthy competition then less fans show up.

Rangers provide a lot of money for every club they come up against in the league. For the smaller teams, playing against the Old Firm teams is their biggest gates in the season. This would be slashed in 2.

The TV deal with Sky is based on Rangers and Celtic playing each other 4 teams a season. Remove this and the deal becomes void meaning Sky could walk away.

Celtic made a profit of just £180k last season despite playing 7 Old Firm games (their biggest gate) yet their chief exec thinks they could cope without Rangers.

Then there is the fact that the co-efficient is taking another battering with Belgian and even Cypriot sides goign in firther in Europe than Scottish sides meaning even more qualifiers just to qualify each year, which means more chance of failing to qualify which in turns means losing out in yet more millions.

 

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Even THG is laughing at you.

 

that blanket comfy Medro!!

TV revenue: 3% of Celtic turnover!

£180k profit, increased turnover, debt reduced to £7million... The Whyte Knight would have loved that for, his still, un-audited accounts!

Don't kid yerself ... Celtic don't need Rangers!

 

Ah, for ****s sake!

 

Here Medro, the Telegraph have already done this poll with a much larger sample size than you'll get on here.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/fo...ation-of-appointment-at-Court-of-Session.html

Over 71% say you can go **** yourselves

 

£180k profit after 7 old firm games

 

Yes, but that also includes the astronomical repairs, insurance premiums and policing costs of keeping you animals in one corner.

 

Well you hardly gonna admit that you need Rangers for your own club to survive.

 

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So without those games it's safe to say that Celtic wouldn't have made a profit.

 

Because it's not true.

Oor Bib's no liar.

Ya filthy hun ****.

 

...and your hardly likely to admit that the country you wish to be from will be a virtual Nirvana when you're gone

 

Animals?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-highlands-islands-16914702

 

Your right losing the champions in a 2 horse race is no big deal.

 

I've already had this argument umpteen times and I'm sick of it, to be honest.


Instead, I'm just going to poke fun at you.

 

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentis...ign=Feed: theguardian/football/rss (Football)

This chap clearly feels that Celtic do not need rangers.

Rangers are a quintessentially British institution. This is the Queen's XI. Their fans sing Rule Britannia and God Save the Queen – but they are in deep trouble, and may well fold completely before it's time to launch the Jubilee barge. Football writer and Rangers fan Graham Spiers has called this the club's "bitter harvest", and railed against the club's inability to cope with its own sectarian songsheet, which has been the source of grief and resentment for years.

But this is a story about financial stupidity more than cultural insolvency. The emerging collapse of Rangers football club is an allegory for a different game that's not so beautiful anymore, where we can't run failed institutions just because it's what we've always done. Rangers may go bust owing the tax man almost £50m.

How did this happen? After the loyalty she has been shown over the years, how can Her Majesty allow her Revenue & Customs to behave in this manner? The reality dawning on the Scottish sports press and supporters of Rangers FC (two groups that are not always entirely distinct) is that the Scottish champions are perilously close to administration and, potentially, liquidation.

Rangers chairman Craig Whyte (himself currently under investigation by the government's intelligence and enforcement directorate for his acquisition of the Ibrox club) said there is no "realistic or practical" alternative to getting ready for administration. The problem relates to a claim by HMRC for unpaid taxes over a period of several years dating back to 2001, which could result in massive liabilities.

The collapse of such a footballing giant after decades of mismanagement tells us a story not just about football as a bloated dysfunctional cultural spectacle, but of feral businessmen, media collusion, and a society witnessing key institutions collapse and teeter while desperately denying that such a thing is happening.

As bitter reality dawns, other certain truths are clung to amid the wreckage. Two of these stand out. One is that Craig Whyte is a shrewd guardian with a secret plan. Rumours swirl that Graeme Souness waits in the wings like a moustachioed Sauron. A Blue Knight to replace Craig Whyte. The second is that Rangers will emerge from the ordeal stronger, and, er, leaner.

Establishment voices mutter confidently of the club's fanbase and that the ""club will never die". Such macho posturing is a default setting from the club's supporters (who numbered 17,822 at the recent home defeat to Dundee United), but the full extent of the club's debts are unknown. Closely tied to this belief that RFC will re-emerge is the notion (repeated like a mantra on all broadcast frequencies) that "the Scottish Premiere League without Rangers is unthinkable", and "Scottish football couldn't survive without the Old Firm". But this idea was quashed by Celtic's chief executive Peter Lawwell only this week, when he stated plainly that his club "don't need Rangers" to flourish financially. Lawwell said the eventuality of their Old Firm rivals going bust "would have no material effect on Celtic".

The idea that the two clubs are mutually dependent persists only because the idea of Rangers and Celtic is so deeply embedded not just in Scottish culture, but also in Scottish press circulation. The Old Firm flog papers. But, in reality, the idea that splitting the Old Firm would be a travesty for Scottish football is upheld only by people who have vested interests in our (already) hopelessly failing game. Scotland's Sky TV deal is already pitiful, and BBC Scotland's coverage is reduced to a poorly produced highlights package.

Michael Grant of the Herald wrote: "Celtic and Scottish football could live without Rangers but, boy, it would be as dull as dishwater." For the absent-minded and unobservant, Scottish football has been in dire terminal decline for some time now. The idea that it would be worse in a league that would immediately present more opportunities for success is patently absurd. It's the sort of logic that could only be expressed by members of a closed group.

Life After Rangers Football (Larf) would mean for every other club a chance that the thousands who migrate towards Ibrox from towns across Scotland every other Saturday might show an interest in their local team. They would have realistic hope of winning trophies. But the positive reality of a Scottish game without Rangers is not primarily about a sport rid of a substantial element of ritualised bigotry and sustained intergenerational hatred, but the prospect of top-quality football being played by young Scotsmen in an atmosphere of optimism. That's something worth aspiring to.

The mainstream press have been fatally blindsided on the impending crisis at Ibrox despite excellent blog coverage. But let's not blame the clubbable journos. The real culprits are the management and board of the club who piled profligacy upon spending spree, from Dick Advocaat's dubious £12m Tore Andre Flo to David Murray's gigantic vanity project. But who'd blame them? Our culture lauds these dodgy geezers. Murray, the club's previous owner, was quoted as saying: "For every £5 Celtic spends I'll spend £10." That doesn't seem so clever now.

 

The country i wish to be from!?!

Huh?