Ince and Maguire

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When he joined Derby in February they where top and 9 points inside the play offs
They've finished 8th
Apart from at Blackpool he's hardly ripped up any trees has he.
Him and his pappa are bad apples with ideas above thier station.
Anybody who refuses to play for England when the likes of Harry Kane and Riss Barkley can't wait to get there and play is a complete dick!!!! End of good night old fruit !!!

 

well the whooooosh is on me

 

I'll say it again, how does his attitude cause defenders or goalkeepers to have bad games? How does his attitude affect the opposing teams' performance? How does it affect the managers' choices?

Again, it doesn't.

 

Yes it does

 

Please tell me how the attitude affects his defender or goalkeepers performance on the pitch?

 

I used to work in Derby in 2010. 6 month contract i had they terminated it a month early. I blamed Tom Ince then and i still blame him now.

 

By unsettling the whole set up
It's happened in the past and will happen again
I hope he doesn't return here he's a sulking little brat

 

But how? How can his attitude unsettle the defence to a point that they have a bad performance?

It just doesn't. Despite what you appear to think, not all footballers get upset easily, and I certainly think Ince will get more easily upset than his colleagues at Derby. He was one of the youngest players in the squad - his attitude will have been brushed off by a lot of the more experienced guys.

As I said, to suggest that he is the sole reason for them capitulating is just plain stupidity. To suggest that one single players' attitude can destabilize an entire club is just ridiculous.

Luis Suarez had a ****ing horrible attitude at Liverpool. Look what happened? He nearly single handedly won them the Prem.

 

You was the one that suggested that I said he was responsible in the first place so I played along with it
What I said was that he's brought them no luck.
But I still wouldn't have him back here now we seem to be getting the spirit back at the moment and he and pops might unsettle things

 

Anyone who watched the Derby game today would have seen Tom Ince is not their problem.

It's a truly ridiculous notion.

I wonder how far out of the playoffs they'd have ended up without him.

 

Maguire voted Man of the match against Wolves.

http://www.wigan.vitalfootball.co.uk/article.asp?a=398514

 

Ince was not the reason for Derby going down, they've had a few injuries to key players throughout the second half of the season. I listened to the commentary of their game yesterday and the commentator said of how before January their performances were based on a solid defence, and since January the team has change its style to a more attacking team to accommodate Ince and Lingoed, but with a few injuries adding up they have tailed off.

In January I said they'd win the league with Bournemouth in second place, how things change. Ince gave Derby an added creativity and end product, but to be fair to the kid he is like a pipe cleaner and offers no protection for your defence does he? Give him credit though, he dug them out of jail many times.

 

Luck?! Haha sounds a bit rude doesn't it? You know, luck! Sounds an awful lot like F...

 

Also, you're talking a load of bollocks there Southwest, in football you make your own luck. A winger that scores 11 in 17 isn't responsible for his teams shortcomings, regardless of his attitude.

It's like saying we were relegated in 2010 because of Jimmy Bullard.

 

Lived in Derby for a while and still have mates there. Keep an eye out for their results - mainly because of one of my DCFC supporting mates insists every year that they're going to do better than us. Not a single fan blames Ince, in fact they'd love to sign him. £5mil is being suggested. If they'd gone up I think it would have happened... Not so sure now. I'm not a huge Ince fan by the way. Always seemed lightweight, one footed and nervous playing for us but obviously is effective at some level. He's been on Derby set pieces and managed a few decent free kicks which is more than can be said for our current starters. Their main issues are a poor defence, significant injuries to Chris Martin and Craig Bryson and, according to many fans, McLaren's lack of a plan B. Not Tom Ince though.

 

And there we have it

 

This CSM's winding us all up, surely?

 

Ince get hard time on Twitter from Forest fans.

http://hereisthecity.com/en-gb/2015...ns-mock-tom-ince-on-twitter-after-derby-fini/

 

I imagine that Tom Ince will be playing for us again next season, I just hope Brucie plays him in his proper position of course it all depends on if we stay up or not.