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Bitter Bitter Moyes

Discussion in 'Arsenal' started by The Meerkat, Feb 2, 2011.

  1. merrysupersteve

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    In fairness, the ref now has to say the language and demeanour of Fabregas were acceptable as if he says they weren't, his assessors will come crashing down on him like a ton of breaks as he failed to take the appropriate action and send the player off. And refs are hardly renowned for holding their hands up in these situations, particularly when they are already due a grilling for a very poor decision during the game.
     
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  2. The Meerkat

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    Well perhaps just perhaps Moyes is lying?

    Considering we have had other bitters in the past spouting rubbish like Cesc spitting at them etc, all proved to be rubbish!

    But either way Arsene is not saying he saw nothing!

    Which is the point you were making trying to be funny

    But you failed because your too stupid to actually read the interview from more than one persons side!!

    So now seriously f off before you look more and more of a fool!!



    Desperation from the United fans now!!

    Sad stuff!
     
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  3. -jordan-

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    But either way Arsene is not saying he saw nothing!
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    <laugh> yes he is and yes he has!!!! he said he talked to the refs at half time and fabregas didnt.
     
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  4. Hans Moleo

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    Constrcrepe can you read?

    We'll just wait and see if Moyes decided to formally change his storyif the rumours are true and the ref won't be making a complaint about Cesc being abusive


    Tell me which part of this sentence says he has already done it?

    The issue is that apparantly the officials have said that they have no issue with what cesc had said "about them" not to them and now moyes is changing his story accordingly.

    This is what i have heard on the radio this morning....

    Now if it is true that the ref has said this then Moyes should be banned from the toucline as just because he thinks it was out of order doesnt mean the officials have to take offence....

    Its a bit like walking in half way through a conversation, you dont have a clue what is going on and although you may feel what is said is wrong you dont know the context of the conversation and what has happened before.
     
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  5. The Meerkat

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    <laugh><laugh>

    Very desperate now!!!

    firstly it was at half time... Is it possible to get a red card during half time?

    No the Ref is not changing his story at all, the REF never made a story, this is his first one.

    And he is siding with Arsene and Cesc, not Moyes.

    So basically showing that Moyes was just being desperate and bitter to distract from his own teams bad performance!

    Great stuff ref, now get it out into the press quickly to shut these mancs up!
     
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  6. The Meerkat

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    No he is saying he Saw something you fool!!

    He saw Cesc right next to him and no where near the Ref!

    He is also saying he spoke to the Ref and not Cesc!

    United fans making fools of themselves now!!

    FAIL
     
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  7. Kwik

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    Moyes is a respected manager.

    Cesc has repeatedly courted contraversy by throwing pizza, spitting, invading the pitch and wearing the shirt of the team who loaned him to Arsenal.

    The sooner this thug **** leaves these shores the better.
     
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  8. merrysupersteve

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    Yes the ref can send a player off at half time. I never said anything about story changing. I said that there is no way on Earth he will say Fabregas's actions were inappropriate as that will reflect poorly on his abilities as a ref and referees are not very good at admitting to messing up.
     
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  9. Constcrepe

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    Gooners really are stupid sometimes. Firstly you lot claim Moyes never said Cesc said this to the ref. Then you said the media had got this wrong. However the proof is there if you bother to look. Moyes DID say Cesc made the comments to the officials. Now you claim Moyes is changing his story and the ref is not going to complain.

    Very well and good. Please can you provide the proof? If Moyes has lied then yes I agree he should apology and be punished. Who for God sake would disagree with that? However forgive me for not believing Arsenal especially when Wenger has been shown to lie before and gooners will say anything to defend their players.
     
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  10. The Meerkat

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    Jesus more of you have joined in now!

    <laugh>

    how pathetic is this?? And you have the nerve to moan about Arsenal fans going on your board?

    Just take a look at yourselves, arguing more about it than any Everton fan <laugh>!! how Desperate is that!!



    The REf had no intention of saying Cesc actions were inapporpriate to start, your just looking for excuses that mean you were not 100% wrong!!

    When really you were, Moyes was just being bitter! Understandable, but stupid!


    Oh God Constrcrepe - How stupid are you and how many times do you need to be told the same thing? What Moyes said is irrelevant, The Ref and Arsene have statements that match up, thats all that matters.

    The fact that Moyes lied just looks bad and desperate on him.

    The Radio is spouting on about it now so i would suggest looking through papers if you want to find proof.

    But innocent until proven guilty is the way this country works, and with the ref releasing a statement do you agree that Moyes should be punished if proven guilty of lying?
     
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  11. John Smith

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    The proof?

    Silly ****s. **** off out.
     
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  12. Hans Moleo

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    No dumb ass read my post you incompetent twat....

    "The issue is that apparantly the officials have said that they have no issue with what cesc had said "about them" not to them and now moyes is changing his story accordingly"

    now you've come out with

    Moyes DID say Cesc made the comments to the officials...

    ok let me explain as your to dumb to get it.....

    The ref has said "according to the radio this morning" that he did hear Cesc saying something about the officials but had no issue with it. It was then reiterated on the radio how he had said the ref heard Cesc talking about the officials and not TO THE OFFICIALS.....

    Moyes claims Cesc said what ever it was to the Officials...

    See the difference?
     
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  13. Little_Red_Gunner

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    Gooners really are stupid sometimes. Firstly you lot claim Moyes never said Cesc said this to the ref. Then you said the media had got this wrong. However the proof is there if you bother to look. Moyes DID say Cesc made the comments to the officials. Now you claim Moyes is changing his story and the ref is not going to complain.

    Very well and good. Please can you provide the proof? If Moyes has lied then yes I agree he should apology and be punished. Who for God sake would disagree with that? However forgive me for not believing Arsenal especially when Wenger has been shown to lie before and gooners will say anything to defend their players.

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    You're not getting it are you? Let me spell this out as simply as possible.

    It's already been esablished that Moyes is claiming that Cesc said these things TO the ref. He's bee quoted as saying this in numerous places.

    What we're wondering now is whether he'll change his tune after (and if the rumours are true) the ref doesn't lodge a formal complain about Cesc and confirms that nothing abusive was said directly to him which seems to be where the whole "tunnelgate" has come from. Honestly <doh> No one is saying he HAS changed his tune YET, but whether he will after events have unfolded to prove Cesc's innocence in the whole issue.

    Honestly if you insist on making yourself look a right plank, at least have the decency to properly read our replies first <ok>
     
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  14. John Smith

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    Yes! It's a ****ing puerile rant by a bitter manager!!
     
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  15. Constcrepe

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    OMG. Right I'll rely on Moyes speaking directly to the BBC and by the way a taped interview not some quote edited by a journalist. You can rely on some radio station on which some journalist makes some claims. Again I say and lets see if you can grasp this; if Moyes has slandered a player and lied about him he deserves to be punished. However if he is right and he is adamant he is; then Cesc is a disgrace. I don't expect a gooner to condemn Wenger or Cesc though.
     
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  16. The Meerkat

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    <laugh><laugh>


    Thats exactly what United fans and other fans alike have been doing ALLLLLLLLLLLLL Morning!!

    Listening to talksport, reading the DailyMail as you quoted earlier!




    Well as we are saying, The REF is the only person here who can be trusted as he is neutral!

    so if the Ref is saying Cesc did nothing wrong then i hope you will come on here stating what a fool you have been.
     
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  17. Little_Red_Gunner

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    Likewise we'd never expect a Manc to condemn the behaviour of a certian Wayne Rooney, despite the fact that he gets away with a lot more than the average football player <erm>
     
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  18. -jordan-

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    <laugh> And there was me thinking they were biased towards us.
     
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  19. The Meerkat

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    ERRRRR Thats only Howard Webb <ok>

    Seriously though, the ref is the only neutral in this situation as he is the person apparently abused by Cesc.

    So if he is saying nothing happened then you have no choice but to believe him, correct?
     
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  20. -jordan-

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    Not really. Graham 3 yellow cards Poll was on talksport after the Rafael Spurs incident and all he wanted to harp on about was how Rooney had sweared at him 27 times in a match he officiated before he retired. he was harping on about how he didnt send him off and didnt even mention it in his match report, but that he should have sent him off for the abuse. just because a ref doesnt mention it or bring it up doesnt mean it didnt happen
     
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