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  1. saintKlopp

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    I would take issue with a lot of this, but for now I'll concentrate on the last sentence.
    If we spent a lot in the past and didn't win the PL, why does spending so much now mean we must compete?

    It's about who you buy and how you use them, not simply how much they cost. That table is misleading in so many ways.
     
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  2. jaffaklopp

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    You do have to consider net spend though, because a lot of our spending has followed losing a big asset.

    Owen didn't go for much back then, but we wasted the money and swap deal
    Mascherano and Alonso and then Torres. Complete waste of all that money
    Suarez, may aswell lost him on a free
    Sterling went for a lot and we wasted it yet again.

    Coutinho more recently, at least this time we have bought top talent. That is probably the first time we didn't just spend for spend sake
     
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  3. moreinjuredthanowen

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    here is a list of players bought since 1992

    ARRIVALS 18/19
    Players Club Transfer sum
    Alisson AS Roma £56.25m
    Naby Keïta RB Leipzig £54.00m
    Fabinho AS Monaco £40.50m
    Xherdan Shaqiri Stoke City £13.23m
    ARRIVALS 17/18
    Players Club
    Virgil van Dijk Southampton FC £70.92m
    Mohamed Salah AS Roma £37.80m
    Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain Arsenal FC £34.20m
    Andrew Robertson Hull City £8.10m
    Tony Gallacher Falkirk FC £205k
    Dominic Solanke Chelsea FC U23 Free Transfer
    ARRIVALS 16/17
    Players Club
    Sadio Mané Southampton FC £37.08m
    Georginio Wijnaldum Newcastle United £24.75m
    Loris Karius 1.FSV Mainz 05 £5.58m
    Ragnar Klavan FC Augsburg £4.50m
    Alexander Manninger FC Augsburg Free Transfer
    Joel Matip FC Schalke 04 Free Transfer
    ARRIVALS 15/16
    Players Club
    Christian Benteke Aston Villa £41.85m
    Roberto Firmino TSG 1899 Hoffenheim £36.90m
    Nathaniel Clyne Southampton FC £15.93m
    Danny Ings Burnley FC £7.47m
    Marko Grujic Red Star Belgrade £6.30m
    Joe Gomez Charlton Athletic £4.41m
    James Milner Manchester City Free Transfer
    Ádám Bogdán Bolton Wanderers Free Transfer
    Steven Caulker Queens Park Rangers Loan
    ARRIVALS 14/15
    Players Club
    Adam Lallana Southampton FC £27.90m
    Dejan Lovren Southampton FC £22.77m
    Lazar Markovic SL Benfica £22.50m
    Mario Balotelli AC Milan £18.00m
    Alberto Moreno Sevilla FC £16.20m
    Divock Origi LOSC Lille £11.37m
    Emre Can Bayer 04 Leverkusen £10.80m
    Rickie Lambert Southampton FC £4.95m
    Javier Manquillo Atlético Madrid Loan fee:
    £1.80m
    Kevin Stewart Tottenham Hotspur Free Transfer
    ARRIVALS 13/14
    Players Club
    Mamadou Sakho Paris Saint-Germain £17.10m
    Iago Aspas Celta de Vigo £9.72m
    Simon Mignolet Sunderland AFC £9.54m
    Luis Alberto Sevilla FC £7.20m
    Tiago Ilori Sporting CP £6.75m
    Victor Moses Chelsea FC Loan fee:
    £1.08m
    Aly Cissokho Valencia CF Loan fee:
    £900k
    Kolo Touré Manchester City Free Transfer
    ARRIVALS 12/13
    Players Club
    Joe Allen Swansea City £17.10m
    Daniel Sturridge Chelsea FC £13.50m
    Fabio Borini AS Roma £11.97m
    Philippe Coutinho FC Internazionale £11.70m
    Nuri Sahin Real Madrid Loan fee:
    £4.50m
    Oussama Assaidi SC Heerenveen £3.60m
    Samed Yesil Bayer 04 Leverkusen £1.17m
    ARRIVALS 11/12
    Players Club
    Stewart Downing Aston Villa £20.52m
    Jordan Henderson Sunderland AFC £16.20m
    Charlie Adam Blackpool FC £7.56m
    Sebastián Coates Club Nacional £7.20m
    José Enrique Newcastle United £7.20m
    João Carlos Teixeira Sporting CP U19 £1.08m
    Danny Ward Wrexham AFC £113k
    Doni AS Roma Free Transfer
    Craig Bellamy Manchester City Free Transfer
    ARRIVALS 10/11
    Players Club
    Andy Carroll Newcastle United £36.90m
    Luis Suárez Ajax Amsterdam £23.85m
    Raúl Meireles FC Porto £11.70m
    Christian Poulsen Juventus FC £4.93m
    Paul Konchesky Fulham FC £3.60m
    Brad Jones Middlesbrough FC £2.52m
    Danny Wilson Rangers FC £2.48m
    Jonjo Shelvey Charlton Athletic £1.80m
    Milan Jovanovic Standard Liège Free Transfer
    Joe Cole Chelsea FC Free Transfer
    ARRIVALS 09/10
    Players Club
    Glen Johnson Portsmouth FC £18.45m
    Alberto Aquilani AS Roma £18.00m
    Sotiris Kyrgiakos AEK Athens £2.70m
    Maxi Rodríguez Atlético Madrid Free Transfer
    ARRIVALS 08/09
    Players Club
    Robbie Keane Tottenham Hotspur £21.60m
    Javier Mascherano West Ham United £20.25m
    Albert Riera RCD Espanyol Barcelona £8.82m
    Andrea Dossena Udinese Calcio £8.10m
    Diego Cavalieri Sociedade Esportiva Palmeiras £3.96m
    David N'Gog Paris Saint-Germain £1.35m
    Péter Gulácsi MTK Budapest U19 £225k
    Philipp Degen Borussia Dortmund Free Transfer
    ARRIVALS 07/08
    Players Club
    Fernando Torres Atlético Madrid £34.20m
    Ryan Babel Ajax Amsterdam £15.53m
    Martin Skrtel Zenit St. Petersburg £9.00m
    Lucas Leiva Grêmio Foot-Ball Porto Alegrense £9.00m
    Yossi Benayoun West Ham United £6.57m
    Krisztián Németh MTK Budapest £2.70m
    Sebastián Leto Club Atlético Lanús £2.70m
    Charles Itandje RC Lens £1.35m
    Damien Plessis Olympique Lyon B £450k
    Nikolay Mihaylov Levski Sofia £135k
    Emiliano Insúa Club Atlético Boca Juniors Swap deal
    Andriy Voronin Bayer 04 Leverkusen Free Transfer
    Ryan Crowther Stockport County Free Transfer
    ARRIVALS 06/07
    Players Club
    Dirk Kuyt Feyenoord Rotterdam £16.20m
    Jermaine Pennant Birmingham City £8.19m
    Craig Bellamy Blackburn Rovers £8.10m
    Álvaro Arbeloa Deportivo de La Coruña £3.51m
    Gabriel Paletta Club Atlético Banfield £2.43m
    Javier Mascherano West Ham United Loan fee:
    £1.80m
    Astrit Ajdarevic Falkenbergs FF £1.08m
    Emiliano Insúa Club Atlético Boca Juniors Loan fee:
    £90k
    Nabil El Zhar AS Saint-Étienne B Free Transfer
    Fábio Aurélio Valencia CF Free Transfer
    Robbie Fowler Manchester City Free Transfer
    ARRIVALS 05/06
    Players Club
    Mohamed Sissoko Valencia CF £10.80m
    Peter Crouch Southampton FC £9.45m
    Pepe Reina Villarreal CF £8.82m
    Daniel Agger Bröndby IF £7.88m
    Mark González Albacete Balompié £2.25m
    Besian Idrizaj LASK £248k
    Jack Hobbs Lincoln City £203k
    Jan Kromkamp Villarreal CF Swap deal
    Miki Roqué UE Lleida Free Transfer
    Ramon Calliste Manchester United U23 Free Transfer
    Antonio Barragán Sevilla FC B Free Transfer
    Boudewijn Zenden Middlesbrough FC Free Transfer
    David Martin Milton Keynes Dons Free Transfer
    ARRIVALS 04/05
    Players Club
    Djibril Cissé AJ Auxerre £18.00m
    Xabi Alonso Real Sociedad £14.40m
    Fernando Morientes Real Madrid £8.33m
    Luis García FC Barcelona £7.88m
    Josemi Málaga CF £2.70m
    Scott Carson Leeds United £1.26m
    Mauricio Pellegrino Valencia CF Free Transfer
    Antonio Núñez Real Madrid Free Transfer
    ARRIVALS 03/04
    Players Club
    Harry Kewell Leeds United £9.00m
    Steve Finnan Fulham FC £4.73m
    Florent Sinama-Pongolle AC Le Havre £360k
    Darren Potter Blackburn Rovers U18 Free Transfer
    Carl Medjani AS Saint-Étienne B Free Transfer
    Paul Jones Southampton FC Loan
    ARRIVALS 02/03
    Players Club
    El-Hadji Diouf RC Lens £13.50m
    Salif Diao CS Sedan-Ardennes £6.75m
    Bruno Cheyrou LOSC Lille £5.85m
    Anthony Le Tallec AC Le Havre U19 £2.25m
    Patrice Luzi AC Ajaccio Free Transfer
    Alou Diarra Bayern Munich Free Transfer
    ARRIVALS 01/02
    Players Club
    Chris Kirkland Coventry City £7.38m
    Jerzy Dudek Feyenoord Rotterdam £6.66m
    Milan Baros FC Banik Ostrava £6.30m
    John Arne Riise AS Monaco £5.49m
    Nicolas Anelka Paris Saint-Germain Loan fee:
    £1.26m
    Abel Xavier Everton FC £1.08m
    ARRIVALS 00/01
    Players Club
    Nick Barmby Everton FC £8.10m
    Christian Ziege Middlesbrough FC £8.10m
    Igor Biscan GNK Dinamo Zagreb £7.43m
    Bernard Diomède AJ Auxerre £4.05m
    Daniel Sjölund West Ham United £1.35m
    Gary McAllister Coventry City £900k
    Grégory Vignal HSC Montpellier £675k
    Markus Babbel Bayern Munich Free Transfer
    Jari Litmanen FC Barcelona Free Transfer
    Pegguy Arphexad Leicester City Free Transfer
    ARRIVALS 99/00
    Players Club
    Emile Heskey Leicester City £14.85m
    Dietmar Hamann Newcastle United £10.80m
    Vladimir Smicer RC Lens £6.12m
    Sander Westerveld Vitesse Arnhem £5.40m
    Stéphane Henchoz Blackburn Rovers £4.86m
    Sami Hyypiä Willem II Tilburg £4.05m
    Erik Meijer Bayer 04 Leverkusen Free Transfer
    Titi Camara Olympique Marseille ?
    ARRIVALS 98/99
    Players Club
    Vegard Heggem Rosenborg BK £4.68m
    Rigobert Song US Salernitana 1919 £3.22m
    Sean Dundee Karlsruher SC £2.48m
    Frode Kippe Lilleström SK £945k
    Djimi Traoré Stade Laval £720k
    Steve Staunton Aston Villa Free Transfer
    ARRIVALS 97/98
    Players Club
    Paul Ince FC Internazionale £5.67m
    Öyvind Leonhardsen Wimbledon FC £4.73m
    Danny Murphy Crewe Alexandra £2.70m
    Karl-Heinz Riedle Borussia Dortmund £2.25m
    Brad Friedel Columbus Crew SC £1.35m
    Jørgen Nielsen Hvidovre IF Free Transfer
    ARRIVALS 96/97
    Players Club
    Patrik Berger Borussia Dortmund £3.15m
    Bjørn Tore Kvarme Rosenborg BK Free Transfer
    ARRIVALS 95/96
    Players Club
    Stan Collymore Nottingham Forest £11.70m
    Jason McAteer Bolton Wanderers £5.63m
    Stephen Pears Middlesbrough FC Free Transfer
    ARRIVALS 94/95
    Players Club
    Phil Babb Coventry City £4.88m
    John Scales Wimbledon FC £3.51m
    Mark Kennedy Millwall FC £1.85m
    Michael Stensgaard Hvidovre IF £432k
    ARRIVALS 93/94
    Players Club
    Nigel Clough Nottingham Forest £2.48m
    Julian Dicks West Ham United £2.03m
    Neil Ruddock Tottenham Hotspur £2.5m
    ARRIVALS 92/93
    Players Club
    Paul Stewart Tottenham Hotspur £2.48m
    David James Watford FC £1.26m
    Torben Piechnik FC Copenhagen £0.5m
    Lee Jones Wrexham AFC £0.3m
    Stig Inge Björnebye Rosenborg BK ?
     
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  4. LuisDiazgamechanger

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  5. moreinjuredthanowen

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    It really depends then on how you calculate NPV (what inflation rate you take)

    so.... i think this things record has been abysmal in the past.
     
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  6. jenners04

    jenners04 I must not post porn!

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    Some of you on here have far too much time on your hands.

    I hope you are spending my tax money wisely on beer and drugs :bandit:
     
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  7. Page_Moss_Kopite

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    Add to those names Steve McManaman who ran his contract down and left on a Bosman, we lost a decent fee on a player who was a bigger star for them than Owen.
     
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  8. Page_Moss_Kopite

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    Can't blame Martin O'Neill kicking off about the Danish football crisis, how the **** can Uefa/FIFA allow them to play in an international tournament while the current situation exists.
    There's a possibility that Wales might play a Danish team made up of Futsal players before it's ironed out and ROI having to play the full international team after it is sorted out.
     
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  9. InBiscanWeTrust

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    Theyre only friendly games, nobody cares about them anyway
     
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    The NL is very important to the smaller nations and are not friendlies.<grr>

    Group B4 of the Nations League.
    Denmark
    Republic of Ireland
    Wales

    Denmark's next game is Wales, and that's where the problem begins if they play a 5 a-side team, by the time Ireland play them it could be sorted.
     
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  11. jenners04

    jenners04 I must not post porn!

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    Just ban the Irish and Welsh teams from any tournament. Problem solved :bandit:

    And ban the danish as well. tell them to sort their **** out <laugh>
     
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  12. Page_Moss_Kopite

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    Yeah, that would simplify things<laugh>
     
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  13. LuisDiazgamechanger

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    ...But players can still get injured.
     
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  14. astro

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    Also check which chances would have mattered

    #doingalukaku
     
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  17. InBiscanWeTrust

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    No... it’s a bunch of friendlies put into a ‘league’ that no one is going to care about because it’s not the WC or Euros.

    Do you think they players that have pulled out for these games would have done so if it was a WC? No... proving that the players don’t see hem as anything more than friendlies
     
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  18. saintKlopp

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    Just ban everyone except England. Might have a chance of winning then.
     
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  19. saintKlopp

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    I'd like exemption from Brexit on the grounds that I think it's a ****ing stupid idea.
     
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  20. Page_Moss_Kopite

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    So, you think managers would not object to their best players being called up if the games were no more than "friendlies"?
    As Dribs said players can pick up serious injuries in these games that could have a bearing on a clubs season.
    Like I said, these games are important to the smaller nations who will play full strength teams in their matches.
     
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