VAR next season

Nothing to do with them being ****. It's the instructions of not flagging close calls that will cause the issue.

 

Players flop about all the time so deciding what is a dive is always going to be subjective - apart from the really blatant ones which a blind ref on a galloping horse can see without the aid of technology anyway.
VAR won't eliminate cheating - incidents are already scrutinised to the max and players are completely shameless on that score. Attempts at retrospective punishment will just open up a whole new can of worms.
The only areas where VAR is really useful is in technicalities, black and white issues similar to the use of goal-line technology. It can't remove subjectivity, and will just lead to more shenanigans with players surrounding the ref demanding reviews for everything.

 

I wasn't even thinking of that.
The ball went in the net and it was a very close call for offside (I thought he was on with the in-game replays). The game would have been stopped for scrutiny so we wouldn't have scored that goal.

 

Fair enough (and what I said in second paragraph too)

 

"the awarding of goals, the awarding of penalties, the issue of straight red cards and mistaken identity."

straight away:

1. only used when a goal is scored or disallowed. this means if you are flagged offside YOU MUST finish the chance even at risk of yellow for kicking ball away as its crucial to get the thing reviewed. Strikers need to play to the net not to the whistle then VAR is on your side.

2. Only used when a penalty shout is given. Means teams should all STOP and all should appeal loudly for pen. This will bring this element into the game as gamesmanship to force a VAR is a legitimate tactic. However if you dived and do it you should be booked.

3. Straight reds: who detemrines. very grey area: if a bad challenge occurs does this remove ref's leeway on a yellow as now he will be seen to have seen challenge form multiple angles.

4. Who cares about mistaken identity. its a rare occurrence.

So how many times will we see VAR? will it be 90% aorund penalty shouts? Will refs call it for every incident in a box.

I think theres so many grey areas about frees and dives and what are yellow cards and offside that it will be interesting.

 

VAR matter no longer in the hands of FA any more FIFA are the one calling the shots, I am not sure if FA can specifically say we do not want VAR if its
accepted worldwide

 

This is a bit like being at school when the bell goes...

The flag is for the referee, not the players. The ref (via his whistle) will tell the players when to stop playing!

 

But it will be officials from the fa calling the shots dribs not fifa.

 

the premier league clubs met to all agree they want it. They did so this week. The FA are mkaing the application to FIFA to use it.

 

I'm puzzled by this. Why wouldn't he flag if there was VAR?

 

Its an interpretation.

The rules state he flags when ball is touched he must flag, really simple. No cricket umpire goes huh i dunno VAR.. not on a wick. they give it out or not out then review. the only time they don't it with run outs.

Its simple. Is he off or on... if you aint sure (mane) don't flag and guess. this is the truth irrespective i thought we debated it enough anyway.... if he's off (aka fulahm) then flag.

if he is found to have not flagged and relied on VAR we might as well appoint a dog to run up and down the line yapping.

 

I think clubs ought to be drilling with VAR in mind.

Ignore the flag, finish the chance 100%
Make sure the ball goes out of play or pick it up on every penalty call, don't let play continue.

etc etc

You have to make the most out of the system.

 

Do that & you get booked .
VAR isn't at the behest of official if done like in WC (and from what he were told was being tested earlier this season in PL) where the officials in the TV bunker can just make the call themselves.
From the WC what can be ascertained is the number of handballs will rocket but it made no difference to defenders grabbing when defending corners etc.

PS personal view is that VAR should not overrule the offside decision when they are as tight as a gnats arse if for no other reason i fail to believe the system is 100% accurate .

 

It's the instruction. If it's close then they're told not to flag because VAR will correct it if it should have been offside. However, if they had flagged and play is stopped, you can't resume where they left off. Any momentum or advantage is already lost.

 

#bentasfuck

We would have been #robbed of our Fulham goal by them incorrectly whinging they were onside when blatantly not

 

There will be fewer contentious decisions, while those who watch football so they have something to argue about in the pub will still have something to moan about discuss intensely.

When Henry put Ireland out of world cup qualification with a handball, the Dublin pubs must've been full of delighted fans.

 

You won't.

England got a record no of headers and pens off set piece due to var.

We must realise that a short tournament won't show the full change to game var will bring.

I agree on not over ruling and putting on field decision as the deciding factor.this will assure that linesman must still flag.

Imo over a season players actions will change as methods to exploit var are devrloped

 

what was that to do with VAR ?

 

First off England got pens off var from corners for people holding.

Then nobody could touch players and all that was happening in the tournament was thst You were suddenly seeing much more set piece goals.

I hope you are not suggesting Jon stones and Harry Maguire are set piece gods.... neither have scored much since have they

 

cba to check but think our pens were give by the refs not VAR .
VAR definitely did not stop the holding at corners etc in fact VAR turned it down twice on the "6 of 1 half a dozen the other" arguement.
Now handball claims were all given so CB's with upper arm amputations will be in great demand next season.