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Discussion in 'Liverpool' started by BCR, Oct 21, 2011.

  1. jaffaklopp

    jaffaklopp Well-Known Member

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    Thought it was poor again. Dani didn't see the ships there, despite flying around for an age and then didn't just circle around behind them where they were defenceless.

    The night king, white Walkers (who did nothing) and the dead all walked through long before John did his Hollywood montage showing a handful of people alive. Then suddenly thousands are there in this episode.

    Thought the dragon was dead or near dead anyway, so finishing him off was a bit meh.

    Euron sank all those ships and could have just finished them off but only captured the hot one. Outside kings landing Cersei could have just finished them all off.
     
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  2. moreinjuredthanowen

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    apparently you need to set your tv right.. apparently that fixes everything as is watching in the dark while standing on your head.
     
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  3. moreinjuredthanowen

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    basically you are thinking too much.

    a) yeah you'd think if she was supposedly over watch she'd be watching not playing happy mum's but it's not important that much. it's killing off one dragon to even odds and intro new and improved dragon crossbow.

    b) yeah you are right that flying round back might work. no evidence of rear facing bows but again thats not the story.

    c) there was always going to be massive amounts alive, nothing else makes sense. no story left if not. they wete on walls or in keep or what have you. tbis is why the arya run through disnt make sense to me.

    d) dolthraki alive is more annoying yo me at least

    e) the thing is building up the fall of deanrys so what if cercei could send out riders or whatever. it makes zero ****ing sense they were in front of wall mate. none. how the **** did thry get there for example but the death is the big thing
     
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  4. moreinjuredthanowen

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    for.me the ending has already been telegraphed. cercei leaves the gates.open so all the poor can come in. so obviously some people are going to just walk straight in. John left after arya so next show him is in trailer outside walls. imo arya is already inside.
     
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  5. moreinjuredthanowen

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    so I suppose the great debate will start shortly. some will be watching game of thrones at the moment but the question has to be asked..... did they take too long?

    is 6 episodes too little? was the show better with 10 episodes and more background stuff in between moments.
     
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  6. astro

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    The start of the episode was great. I can understand Dani being distracted with all the things in her head but still a bit stupid. John is going to be an idiot yet again? Also why did Jamie have to be an idiot and leave?

    The Dothraki are #confirmed dead, and half of the unsullied (before they set sail, now more gone probably).
     
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  7. moreinjuredthanowen

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    yes I'd agree it started quite well.

    there's things that's consistent in there, she should have bloody well known jon has a George washington complex. no i cannot tell a lie.

    there's a scene at the outset of dragon part where she is looking at the thing wonder if it can take off and clearly she's more looking at it than paying any attention HOWEVER any actual fan will say it's take a long time to march or ride to that port from winterfell so it just doesn't tie together for me.

    my view is this series is being done over too short a number of shows. this is the fall into madness for deanrys.

    the ending was good it's the type of thing you want really to reinforce both queens positions but...

    it's over too short a time span and just feels forced. there's no need for how quick it turns it robs euron of his moment too imo.


    but..... I must say.. you've been caught.once by eurons fleets and got mauled. why are you.even setting sail at all? no reason was given to go to dragonstone was there? I fail to see why you'd split your forces now they are depleted.

    the unskilled were halved yes. the dolthraki were said to be remnants which gives them an out that a few thousand remain. the northern were halved too.

    as for Jamie.

    my view since last show is unchanged. he is going to stab cercei in the back just like he stabbed the mad king because she's going to burn the city... it's blindingly obvious to me now.

    the order of events however is off. he left after arya and after jon yeah?

    it's so.blindingly obvious the gates been left open as a comment to show how these guys get into the city.

    my view is over 10 episodes you could craft more intrigue and interactions... especially to build varis's concerned and deanyrs paranoia and excesses.


    at this point we have varis talking like she's a flaming nutter but literally all she's done wrong ever is burn a couple.of tarlys who asked for it.... she's given in on just about every bloody argument!!!

     
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  8. astro

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    From what I understood Circei said leave the gates to the keep open, but the city gates are closed?

    If Euron isn't a moron he should now be thinking how Tyrion knew about the pregnancy i.e. it isn't his.

    Obvious what the Hound is going for but if Jamie kills Cercei what's Arya doing? Maybe she tries and fails to give her a big death scene.

    I think the quick pace is because of the limited contracts for the actors. Game of Thrones probably makes tons of money even with it's huge budget, but probably they don't want to bother to renegotiate contracts for extra episodes because everyone would end up on Sanchez wages and the profit would be negligible. Plus the showrunners are moving on to the new Star Wars trilogy.
     
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  9. RogerisontheHunt

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    I think I can see the ending now.
    Dany defeats Cersei, either Jaime or Arya will actually kill her
    Dany is in full Mad queen mode as Jon arrives.
    Jon is forced to kill her
    Fulfilling the Azor Ahai prophecy as he kills his Nissa Nissa, becoming King and TPTWP.
     
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    I forgot the prophecy that Cercei dies by her brother, so obviously Jamie.

    Then Varys kills Dani for going mad. Plot twist, it was Arya disguised as Varys.

    Then Jon kills Arya.

    Then Sansa kills Jon and takes the throne with Tyrion.
     
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  11. BobbyD

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    it wasn't bad. Bit silly the bit where she just stares down the boats rather than taking them all out
     
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  12. BobbyD

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    seen the film. Thats two space ships she took down and x amount of lasers/missiles etc she ate.

    She got swung round and deflected off and she was too wimpy to take the glove off thanos when she's well OP. Thanos was struggling when "Capt" became worthy that he had to get angry to take him out
     
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    That was my immediate reaction after watching, and it was also coloured by the stupid-fest that was the previous episode

    Having thought about it since, there are many problems with this episode and I've revised my reaction and rating; I may get into these when it's not half past midnight ... but anyways who really cares eh, it's GoT the most amazingest and perfectest tv show evaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarrrrrr
     
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  14. moreinjuredthanowen

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    look at the bron bit. it could be been done much slower. that felt rushed but funny.

    look at the bit where Danny is start
    ing at tyrion and Jamie... theres more there thst could have been laid on.

    I just feel they could have taken their 2 whole years but written a bit more and weaved in another 2 hours of build up for the mad queen angles.

    it basically took the armies no time to march up to winterfell which is an entire continent and no time back.

    the splitting of forces made absolutely no sense to anyone at all. they know greyjoy is on the sea. why did they go to dragonstone.
     
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  15. luvgonzo

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    I know nothing of the books and likely endings but it's been clear for a while that Sansa had learned a lot from Cersi and has been warped by her experiences. Cersi will be replaced by another evil bitch.
     
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  16. moreinjuredthanowen

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    which is inevitable

    you can see the paranoia setting in. I just truely wish they'd built it up more over longer time and given varis more actual screen time reason to be freaking out.

    in the end deanarys has killed nobody, maimed nobody and given nobody a real reason to suspect her bar a couple of snappy moments.

    Jeffrey starts season 1 being cruel little ****, ends it with chopped off ned Starks head on a like and has sansa beaten in front of the court. it's plain as day he's mad...

    deanrys offers the tarlys a choice and while tyrion is there trying to offer the wall she's given them a choice and they refuse so really she has to... after that a snap at tyrion for basically being an idiot is far outweighed by her noble sacrifice of most of her army's.

    there's just not enough build.up to her fall... really it's just been a few quick blows... jon reveal, jon being too honest, looking round a party, her dragon getting killed, her friend and former slave getting the chop. nearly all in one episode.

    any way... it is what it is.

    next show I assume lines up another battle.

    it seems ****ing obvious you.just fly at night and burn the lot cos one things blindingly obvious. none of those scorpions points straight up and aiming in the dark is hard for people without night vision goggles.

    there's ample opportunity to burn eurons fleet at port too.

    I could only presume at this point that we will get some form of initial battle and character positioning next show then a grand finale at the end show where betrayal is rife.

    the thing is the actress playing deanrys has already spoiled it by saying she'll do something terrible which is why this fall is no surprise. the only question is who does she kill.
     
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    I agree in that there'll be an episode of backstabbing before this is settled.
     
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    Watched The Great Gatsby 7.8/10 visually stunning.
     
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  19. moreinjuredthanowen

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    cercei deserves a full show of her death.
     
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  20. moreinjuredthanowen

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    watched thronecast.

    when you get by the bullshit.. they do some great bits to fill in.

    the season 1 spoilers of arya learning how to fight and all that linking up with all that happened basically makes it all looks so ****ing clever.
     
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