1. Log in now to remove adverts - no adverts at all to registered members!

Match Day Thread Premier League, Cups & Euro Watch

Discussion in 'Liverpool' started by LuisDiazgamechanger, Jul 6, 2018.

?

Result...

  1. Home win

  2. Draw

  3. Away win

Results are only viewable after voting.
  1. InBiscanWeTrust

    InBiscanWeTrust Rome, London, Paris, Rome, Istanbul, Madrid
    Forum Moderator

    Joined:
    May 22, 2011
    Messages:
    69,387
    Likes Received:
    24,978
    You’d have to put them in the mix for relegation. Iffy manager and they’ve sold 2 strikers and lost the one hey had on loan.
     
    #18841
  2. johnsonsbaby

    johnsonsbaby Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 31, 2011
    Messages:
    20,821
    Likes Received:
    10,898
    I'm not laughing at you signing Delph. He may turn out to be one of your better signings. My only contention is that his signing and Milner's signing are similar only by their age and where they have come from. I stand by that.

    The on paper comparison may look similar but the reality is far different. At the time of signing, Milner was an integral part of the city team. He'd just played a full season for them and they offered him an enhanced contract to stay. He turned it down. Delph, on the other hand, barely laced his boots up last season, is and has only ever been a bit part player for city. No shame in that but it points to his career at city and Milner's career at city not even being in any way similar.

    With regard to PL titles, Delph played 8 games to get his latest one, Milner played 31 games to get his. You could say it's about contribution or you could just look at the stat and ignore how it was achieved. There's a long list of players who are fortunate enough to have medals they didn't 'deserve'. Just look at who picked up CL medals this year.
     
    #18842
    jenners04 likes this.
  3. Peej

    Peej Fabio Borini Lover

    Joined:
    Feb 25, 2013
    Messages:
    26,049
    Likes Received:
    12,604

    As i said, who knows what a player brings to a team.
     
    #18843
  4. Peej

    Peej Fabio Borini Lover

    Joined:
    Feb 25, 2013
    Messages:
    26,049
    Likes Received:
    12,604
    Maybe a buy back in his contract or a nice percentage sell on? He was never trusted by Sam, looked to be a Walsh buy under Koeman and maybe just never showed enough for Silva. Like many over the years, we saw flashes of what he coudl do, but not regular enough and never took his chance it appears.
     
    #18844
  5. Solid_Air 2

    Solid_Air 2 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 3, 2015
    Messages:
    28,451
    Likes Received:
    24,673
    signing on fee used to be payable every time a contract was signed and possibly still is but freebies normally get an extra amount on top of the standard amount.
     
    #18845
  6. Peej

    Peej Fabio Borini Lover

    Joined:
    Feb 25, 2013
    Messages:
    26,049
    Likes Received:
    12,604
    signed on the never-never then?
     
    #18846
  7. Solid_Air 2

    Solid_Air 2 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 3, 2015
    Messages:
    28,451
    Likes Received:
    24,673
    not with you as unless he has a contract you aint signed him ?
     
    #18847
  8. astro

    astro Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 2, 2012
    Messages:
    46,798
    Likes Received:
    15,891
    If you think Delph has the same ability and workrate as Milner you're in for another hilarious season
     
    #18848
    organic red and johnsonsbaby like this.
  9. johnsonsbaby

    johnsonsbaby Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 31, 2011
    Messages:
    20,821
    Likes Received:
    10,898
    If you're talking about what he will bring to you then yes, that is an unknown. But if you're talking about what players in general bring to teams, ie the teams they are in, it's pretty obvious and there for all to see.
     
    #18849
  10. Peej

    Peej Fabio Borini Lover

    Joined:
    Feb 25, 2013
    Messages:
    26,049
    Likes Received:
    12,604
    Would you have predicted the impact Gary Mc had?
     
    #18850

  11. astro

    astro Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 2, 2012
    Messages:
    46,798
    Likes Received:
    15,891
  12. johnsonsbaby

    johnsonsbaby Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 31, 2011
    Messages:
    20,821
    Likes Received:
    10,898
    In all honesty I've never predicted how any player turned out. We don't buy ready made stars so pretty much every buy is a gamble.

    Gary Mac was a player with a fantastic record, still playing full seasons but in the twilight of his career when we got him and his play was a continuation of what it had always been. He was a dead ball specialist extraordinaire who gave everything in a game. I don't think at his age anyone would have predicted his Liverpool spell would turn out the way it did but there was also no reason to suggest he wouldn't be able to 'keep up'⁰
     
    #18852
  13. Peej

    Peej Fabio Borini Lover

    Joined:
    Feb 25, 2013
    Messages:
    26,049
    Likes Received:
    12,604
    Perfect, so we can agree we are not sure how this will work out then.
     
    #18853
  14. johnsonsbaby

    johnsonsbaby Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 31, 2011
    Messages:
    20,821
    Likes Received:
    10,898
    You never know how players will turn out. I've never pretended otherwise. I like to wait and see rather than try and claim something that isn't true.
     
    #18854
  15. Peej

    Peej Fabio Borini Lover

    Joined:
    Feb 25, 2013
    Messages:
    26,049
    Likes Received:
    12,604
    As I said, who knows how signings will work out.
     
    #18855
  16. johnsonsbaby

    johnsonsbaby Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 31, 2011
    Messages:
    20,821
    Likes Received:
    10,898
    I agree. You're already expecting leadership from him though so hope that works out better than Eto'o who carried similar expectations <whistle>
     
    #18856
  17. astro

    astro Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 2, 2012
    Messages:
    46,798
    Likes Received:
    15,891
    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/footbal...bian-delph-looks-unspectacular-can-take-next/

    "In that far wider pool of players, where does Delph actually belong? Is he that much better than Morgan Schneiderlin?

    Delph's run of matches in the first team correlated ominously with City's mid-season drop in form too.

    Delph's red card, for a horrible, needless follow-through on Ricardo Pereira, appears to be the moment Guardiola realised Delph wasn't for him. A previous red card, for a shocking tackle against Wigan, was a major factor in City's FA Cup derailment the season before too - a player supposedly so experienced has shown too many rushes of blood to the head.

    Delph's performances for England have been absolutely fine. However, the two matches he started in the 2018 World Cup were defeats and, somewhat worryingly, England haven't won a game Delph has started in since he captained the team in a 3-0 win over the USA in November 2017."


    TBF he sounds exactly like an Everton player
     
    #18857
    johnsonsbaby likes this.
  18. Zanjinho

    Zanjinho Boom!
    Forum Moderator

    Joined:
    Sep 10, 2014
    Messages:
    45,606
    Likes Received:
    28,002
    Hope they do purely because of Ashley. Even more so with Bruce.
     
    #18858
  19. Bumps

    Bumps Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 31, 2011
    Messages:
    11,982
    Likes Received:
    7,095
    **** me
    Just watched the city v West Ham first half
    Hammers denied stone pen and conceded a blatant dive
    Wtf it’s preseason !
     
    #18859
  20. Zanjinho

    Zanjinho Boom!
    Forum Moderator

    Joined:
    Sep 10, 2014
    Messages:
    45,606
    Likes Received:
    28,002
    Man City can get as lucky as they like in pre-season, hopefully they'll use all their luck up before the actual season starts
     
    #18860
    Bumps and johnsonsbaby like this.

Share This Page