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Discussion in 'Queens Park Rangers' started by Stroller, Jun 25, 2015.

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Should the UK remain a part of the EU or leave?

Poll closed Jun 24, 2016.
  1. Stay in

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    47.9%
  2. Get out

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    52.1%
  1. Goldhawk-Road

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    Ha ha
     
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    Fascist !!
     
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  4. Uber_Hoop

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    I get them a lot; more so since Mrs Uber left me, for some reason.
     
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  5. Woodyhoopleson

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    ****er
     
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    Brainwashed ****s on a fashion trend imo
    I am looking forward to climate change myself
    The U.K. could do with a decent climate imo
     
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    Release your love juice
    Work **** Work is fine
    If it turns into **** Work **** **** then we are talking big problem Sanchez
     
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    DT’s Socks Well-Known Member

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    I always read Kiwis posts and I have leant two things
     
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  9. Woodyhoopleson

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    That you know nothing new and that you have wasted 15 months of your life?
     
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    On a lighter note...

     
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  11. surreyhoop

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    I for one enjoy Kiwi's copy and paste efforts. Especially on the matchday threads
     
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  12. kiwiqpr

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    strollers main problem
    and i could be wrong but you dont have to prove anything here
    is the stuff i post against his beloved labour party
    in his world the more antisemetic they get the more islamafauxbic the tories get
    as 9s wants to ban the pastism and he never said it had anything to do with my apparent racism
    i can only imagine its because of strollers constant whining which goes on longer than anything i have pasted

    To be charitable to you, you may not be racist yourself. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt, and assume that you just copy and paste pretty much anything you find in your nasty world of right-wing propaganda.

    islam is not a race
    its a religion
    religion is allowed to be mocked
    i have seen pages of anti christianity on here in the past
    someones invisible friend will always be more important than someone elses invisible friend
     
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  13. kiwiqpr

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    in my personal opinion

    not everyones going to be happy about this







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    To confirm. I took the post down for a quiet life. No other reason should be read in to it. If people wish to debate it then I'm cool with that, but it's my personal own final word on the topic. Basically I'm cool with Kiwi too.
     
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  15. Stroller

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    Put the post back up then, if you don't consider it racist. Everyone can then decide for themselves.
     
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    in my personal opinion

    he will have to eat the chocolates himself before they go out of date
    also
    not many people will have seen this or wish to click through to the spectator

    Is Boris wrong to claim Islam set the Muslim world back?

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    I do love the Guardian. As the years go by almost no publication continues to give me such constant amusement. This week has been no exception.
    A couple of days after first reading it I still remain almost impossibly amused by the paper’s lead, front-page story from earlier this week. The banner headline read ‘Boris Johnson claimed Islam put Muslim world “centuries behind”.’ As the sub-header for Frances Perraudin’s piece put it:
    ‘Anger as 2007 essay lamenting ‘no spread of democracy’ in Islamic world comes to light.’
    Comes to light, eh? Must be some under-the-counter pamphlet, previously hidden-from-public-view stuff. That impression is reinforced as we start reading Perraudin’s piece, a piece that sets off with a paragraph of scintillating promise:
    ‘Boris Johnson has been strongly criticised for arguing Islam has caused the Muslim world to be “literally centuries behind” the west, in an essay unearthed by the Guardian.’
    ‘Unearthed’. Wow, this must be exceptionally secret – as well as strong – stuff. So we have to keep reading to discover that the offence complained of did not occur during a rally in a Bavarian beer-hall, but in ‘An appendix added to a later edition of The Dream of Rome, his [Johnson’s] 2006 book about the Roman empire.’ So in fact when the Guardian’s intrepid correspondent, Frances Perraudin, talks about ‘unearthing’ something, what she really means is that she has read some of a book published a little over a decade ago. You can say many things about reading books, including reading books by prominent politicians, but the turning of research into ‘unearthing’ is the sort of self-glorification and task-inflation that could only occur in a trade that is dying.
    And what is the ‘Anger’ which helps to make this Guardian front-page story about a published book? Have the Ayatollahs in Iran commented on ‘The Dream of Rome’? Has Al-Azhar issued any ruling on the permissibility of the 2007 appendix? It appears not. Firstly because they are probably not much bothered by it. And secondly because to get comment from such sources would require effort. Instead Perraudin in all likelihood called up the Muslim Council of Britain (MCB) and ‘Tell Mama’ for comment. The way such organisations work is that journalists of the Perraudin school call them up to ask if they are outraged by something, the organisations then agree that they are outraged at this week’s outrage and thus the journalist gets a story and the group in question gets to continue to hold itself out as a representative body of some kind. Making everyone a winner.
    Yet still this does not seem enough for a real story. Let alone a front-pager. So what we are really reduced to hoping for is that the contents of the book Johnson secretly published through one of the nation’s biggest publishers a decade ago must contain really frightfully incendiary stuff.
    Alas here again we must be disappointed. For in his book Johnson apparently argued that the Islamic religion caused the Muslim world to be ‘literally centuries behind’ the West. He furthermore said,
    ‘There must be something about Islam that indeed helps to explain why there was no rise of the bourgeoisie, no liberal capitalism and therefore no spread of democracy in the Muslim world.
    ‘It is extraordinary to think that under the Roman/Byzantine empire, the city of Constantinople kept the candle of learning alight for a thousand years, and that under Ottoman rule, the first printing press was not seen in Istanbul until the middle of the nineteenth century. Something caused them to be literally centuries behind.’
    The Guardian, and Perraudin, along with the MCB and Tell Mama and various other professional offence-takers think it not just outrageous but seriously provocative for someone to point this out.
    So rather than counter anger with anger, I would like to respond in a spirit of charity and generosity. Thus do I hereby offer a box of Roses chocolates to any Muslim or non-Muslim organisation or spokesperson who can prove that Johnson was wholly wrong in the above statements, and that rather than being a plausible and legitimate interpretation of the historical record, the statements in fact constitute a set of wholly made-up hate-claims. I have purchased the box of chocolates. They are sitting beside me, temptingly, indeed coquettishly, as I write. Yet I will not touch them. All that Tell Mama, the MCB or anyone else needs to do to get them, is to prove that wherever and whenever the religion of Islam arrives in a society, that society sees a burgeoning of capitalism, democracy and the free exchange of ideas. It can’t be that difficult, can it? I await the deluge of applications.
     
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    Ive just had a PM from stroller telling me to do my job properly, he can have a cooling off period.
     
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    Blimey!!
    Does Strolls have a temporary ban?
     
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    Unbanned tonight by the supermods when he gets home apparently
    I assume that's tonight your time
     
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