Off Topic The Politics Thread

The withdrawal agreement was. Just a statement stating the UK was staying in the single market would have saved a huge effort and pages in basically staying in parts of the single market but reworking everything so it looked like we were not staying in it. Complex in make up and will be very complicated in practice if ever used.

 

Nah mate I’m sure......there’s too much anger on here right now. We are taught that stress is the ‘Silent Killer’ and all that raised blood pressure along with the high cholesterol is only gonna get us all if we are not careful.
You would all be better off going for a little jog, whacking **** out of a punch bag or having half an hours meditation........

 

And the mantra is: Remain.

 

Or he could go down in history as the PM who eventually handed back what’s not rightly his Goldy!! Eh?

Not wanting to be overly inflammatory here but NI was taken not given. It doesn’t take a genus to see or admit to that.

Isn’t it about time it is handed back. Isn’t this the perfect time in some respects.
What’s more important, righting a wrong or some notion of grandeur,

 

Give em a referendum

 

But little to no information on potential pros and cons first. Always the best way

 

And I go into Airbus Chester at least twice a week Son and I can ****ing assure you it has ramped up not down, they have nearly finished building a state of the art apprentice centre costing 10’s of millions, and are currently investing 10’s of billions in machinery upgrades, recruitment and new manufacturing buildings, and for your limited information Airbus is both U.K. an French based and is a project between the U.K. and several european countries, and if you did know anything about trade as you claim, you would know that aerospace and it’s ancillaries are actually tariff free so not affected by a no deal scenario.
And as for Toulouse being the centre of aviation in that part of the world you need to look again you absolute ****ing nugget.

 

No, just give it back.

It’s hilarious that the DUP are so influential in this. They only represent 50% of the north. Remember the north actually voted to stay in the EU. They are not even representing what the majority of the people in the north want.
If they were not propping up this rabble of a government then this would IMO have been resolved years ago.
An all Ireland border is not only the obvious trade/economic solution it’s also the right thing to do as it moves Ireland closer to reunification.
Arlene Foster and the DUP are regressive and their ideology is divisive.
Our 2 countries (despite our volatile history), have so much in common. I genuinely believe relations are improving steadily and for the better. What happens over the next few weeks/months will shape our future relationship. There has to be trust.

 

Do you not think that will cause a huge rise in recruitment for the Loyalist Paramilitaries? The New IRA are obviously re-activating members, as was displayed by their actions in Creggan the other day and this will end up leading to retaliation sooner or later. The Loyalists will possibly cause just as much trouble if the threat of a United Ireland is on the cards.

The Tories hard-line Brexit policy will see the disintegration of the Union, unless they soften their stance and get a deal that suits both Leave and Remain. If Scotland ends up with a second Independance referendum, don't be surprised if NI and Wales get one too. Are you confident that NI will chose to re-unify with Ireland if such a referendum were offered? Maybe the option of re-joining the EU will be the carrot that tips the balance in that instance - it would definately be a factor in Scotland, although it would be a much harder route - NI would just be absorbed with Ireland, whilst Scotland would have to apply (but may get fast-tracked?).

 

If it was only that easy, Nuts... If the people of NI wanted to unite with the Republic of Ireland, the UK government would back unification in a heartbeat. It solves more problems than just Brexit. This is not about sovereign territory, or the remnants of Empire. It's about doing what the people of NI want - although, as we can see from the suspension of Stormont, that's not always easy to determine. Maybe it's time for another referendum in N Ireland. But if unification happened against the wishes of the Loyalist community, the serious problems with Loyalist terrorism would only just begin imo. Problems for the governments in Dublin and London. This is not just about the simplicity of abandoning a border. You have to take all, or the vast majority of, the people with you.

 

Good for you Turk my sunshine not a problem You were absolutely correct Chester is the centre of aviation it seems in Europe
I was wrong as I looked again and there’s bugger all at Toulouse regarding aviation in fact i’m not sure I have really ever seen a plane around the area at all.

As a idiot I got very confused please forgive me. I have had a full life and seen a few things and some of them were actually true ... I think but I have been addicted to heavy drugs for 20 years I can’t be sure what is what or what is not what

 

Have you got any spare? And if so will you post me some?

 

Did I say Chester was the centre of aviation in Europe, no I did not, did I say there was **** all in Toulouse regarding aviation, again no I did not, but once again you you brush aside the fact you’re wrong and as usual go on the personal attack, because I assume a leave voter has made you look what you are, nothing more than an arrogant twit who cannot accept they have once again been found out, I’m still actually waiting for proof that you are right in anything you say, but in reality you don’t have any, except what the French press and the mainstream media feed you, you have all these opinions but you have no hard evidence, in my opinion you are nothing more than a europhile sheep, with no actual thoughts other than made up bollox to attempt to impress other fools,like yourself.

 

Boris losing another battle? Judges accuse him of deliberately misleading the Queen! Hang the bastard!!

Scotland

Brexit: Scottish judges rule Parliament suspension is unlawful

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The court ruled that the prime minister was attempting to "stymie" Parliament by suspending it for five weeks


Boris Johnson’s suspension of the UK Parliament is unlawful, Scotland’s highest civil court has ruled.

A panel of three judges at the Court of Session found in favour of a cross-party group of politicians who were challenging the prime minister's move.

The judges said the PM was attempting to prevent Parliament holding the government to account ahead of Brexit.

The UK government said it will appeal against the ruling to the Supreme Court in London.

The Court of Session decision overturns an earlier ruling from the court, which said last week that Mr Johnson had not broken the law.

It is currently unclear what impact the judgement will have on the current five week suspension of Parliament, a process known as proroguing, which started in the early hours of Tuesday.

But the BBC's assistant political editor, Norman Smith, said it was quite likely that Mr Johnson would recall Parliament before a Supreme Court ruling on the case next week - and perhaps as early as today or tomorrow

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-49661855

 

No, just lock him in the Tower for meaningfully and illegally misleading the Queen.

 

Here’s a quick snapshot hopefully a quick 10 min balanced look at the one old story … ensure you look at the timelines here as it’s important. Rip them apart my friend as I am too busy at the moment trying to work on some serious stuff for Nationwide BS that you and I won’t get to feed until 2022 and a hint there is that is looking a lot difference than we all think it will like … irrelevant I know so forget I said it.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...on-in-traces-of-axed-superjumbo-idUSKCN1UW1VN
Original story in 2012 albeit the daily post: To of course give balance to your views
https://www.dailypost.co.uk/business/business-news/business-post-airbus-toulouse-broughton-2660719
Here’s some evidence on what is taking place after the issue of Brexit was not resolved in time:
http://www.deeside.com/airbus-says-wing-production-move-britain-unless-brexit-demands-met/
Yep they are still building wings I totally agree for Airbus but you may need to take a giant leap of faith in the idiot here as the new final assembly plants in Toulouse which have capacity to actually manufacture wings as well as use the Hamburg plant of course entirely in Europe.
Just to let you know that Hamburg is in Europe in a country called Naziland but the roads I have heard are excellent in Frogland where the little village of Toulouse is so they may be able to streamline their supply chains it’s just a thought
Long term there is a big risk that 10,000 jobs in Chester and Bristol will be under threat count in the supply chains and the support industries we are talking another 10.000 at least.
Now this is just one little story you brought up and no doubt this will dismissed with a bollocks comment but consider this you are a NO Deal voter which as we know would damage your mates jobs if of course they haven’t already been planned out …I say its looking likely but not 100%.
Have a good look around the internet even look at some French news sites if you wish maybe I will for you to reinforce the growth rates around the village of Toulouse … warning they will inn French/ I am not sure the board want to read all this crap I could post Kiwi style and remember this is just one story … one example posted at the time as I picked it up on it in my local French papers.
Should be talk financials as I am on point there and have already posted a lot of pointless crap on the mass exodus away from the city of London … I should know that as little old me the thick gets to see some very interesting stuff. Barclays to Dublin is a good starting point if anyone cares to look into it … Dublin we have better people than I on here that will at least confirm the expansion taking place there.
Board do not get me wrong here it will seem like business as usual after Brexit no problems whatsoever … its a long term irreversible trend I am on about. One thing I believe is that talent will be lost from the UK possibly forever.

Look it’s no biggy move on none of us can stop anything we are just ants

 

bUt DeMoCrAsEA

Also this Yellowhammer thing sounds mental. Not telling the people you trusted with a referendum just how **** their choice was in case they realise it was all a lot of bollocks. More demockraseeeee.

 

Treason off with his head

 

Is it allowed on here to slag off Netanyahu and his plans to annex parts of the West Bank without being accused by some of anti-semitism ?

Asking for a friend.

 

Yes. It always has been.