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Bloody hell the EU want it all sorted asap!
They are asking for close links and a softer Brexit.... funilly they "don't want their cake and eat it"?
No hard Brexit now..

 

Do you remember all the Remainers gloating at all the votes Johnson lost in Parliament?

 

Shoes on the other foot now! They will get through everything they want. All those muppets laughing when he was losing those votes/bills. It will be very quiet on the other benches now.
Remember what I said about the Tories... they won't forget who tried to stitch them up and it will be payback time for some.

 

Yep. They thought they were so clever didn't they?

 

Let's see how cocky Benn, Cooper and Grieve are now... oh I forgot, Grieve won't be there.

 

Election over:
The Final result in... another Tory seat. That's a majority of 80.

 

Poor old BBC. Their presenters have been talking through gritted teeth all day. None more so than the enbittered Emily Maitlis, who has done her best to rubbish Boris all day.
Quite pathetic.

 

Sky are doing the same. The presenter has just said "Cummings looking as scruffy and disheveled as usual"
She will be out on the town P'd as usual tonight.

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It certainly is. The choice for England was between Brexit or a United Kingdom. The colour of the political map alone shows that that there no longer is a united kingdom.

 

Excellent speech by Boris outside No10.

However, the Tories MUST deliver on his promises.

Oh ****, looks like Lammy is about to appear with Maitlis. Time to switch off!!

 

I like the union, but if the people of Scotland and Wales want to go it alone, good luck to them.

As for Ireland, if the majority want a united Ireland, again good luck to them.

 

Trouble is that it's difficult to put it back in the box. Former Yugoslavia which the West was happy to dismember in the interests of self-determination set a precedent which the UK, Spain and all other European countries will have to live with particularly when so much of this election and the last three years has been a heated debate about honouring the results of a democratic vote.

 

FPTP is not fit for purpose that much is startlingly clear. Not sure how anyone can say it's justifiable now. So many voices not represented because of our hoary old electoral system. The likes of the SNP crowing like mad now but it's madness how 45% Of the vote can get you 80% Of the seats. Interesting to note that parties supporting remain or a referendum with a remain option got 51% of the popular vote which suggests it's not as black and white (or blue) as all that. I do wonder what impact Farage standing down his 317 candidates had, significant I would say and it's a shame that, that sort of mass manipulation of the system is allowed but that's what fptp enables.

 

Agree, the speech was quite humble and also promising. The bit about 'healing' and ' just enjoy Christmas' for me were the 2 stand out points. I think he will do okay with this big majority.

Bloody hell Col! why didn't you warn me earlier! I just turned over and saw Lammy!

 

Did we not have a vote on FPTP and wasn't it massively voted for?

 

**** me, the BBC have now wheeled out that old Commie Ken Loach.

Time for a G&T. Must be 6pm somewhere!!

 

zzzz what utter rubbish Frome. Funnily someone said the same to Nick Farrari on LBC and he put them in their place. The majority want Brexit sorted and it will be sorted. Get over it and accept a democratic vote.

 

FFFF is he still alive? I thought I wrote a post on the RIP thread for him? Jezza probably dug him up and plugged him in.

 

Johnson has talked a lot about leading a 'one-nation' Tory party government. I hope he's as good as his word, but there are a couple of problems with this. Firstly his word has been proven time after time to be utterly worthless, and secondly he sacked a lot of 'one-nation' Tories and is likely to have replaced them with hard right no-dealers. His withdrawal bill will pass of course, but then the hard work starts on getting a good trade agreement with the EU. It's highly unlikely that this can be done by the end of 2020 and, if this is the case, he must extend the transition period for as long as it takes to get a deal. There are many in the Tory party that still actively want a no-deal Brexit, but he must face them down to ensure a proper trade agreement can be reached. Failure to do this, and exiting on WTO terms, would prove his one-nation claim to be just another lie.

 

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