Off Topic The Politics Thread

Bloody hell remoaner Femi has just said the 'losers vote' is over and we will be leaving the EU.
For him to accept this is actually quite funny after the months of crap he has been talking.

 

You said one day it may change as Brackers is changing. Agree younger people like you are moving into the area but there are still so many 'Blue shirts' locally. Why wouldn't you vote Tory... low crime/great schools/Links to London and not far from Ascot. People would never want some looney lefty like Corbyn here.

 

I won't, but I'll have to wait and see.

 

Some positive NHS news to kick off the new regime.

Glad I’ve got insurance.

 

Good post, Raving. I hope your view is now common among Remainers previously concerned about the validity of the 2016 referendum result. I don't think a no-deal is likely going forwards, but negotiations being the nature they are, with elements of brinkmanship, we will doubtless come close a year from now, before the new relationship with the EU established.

 

Your insightful input has been sorely missed.

 

Your constant regurgitation of old arguments hasn't!

Time for us all to move on I feel. The notion that remain would win a second referendum has been completely blown out of the water by this general election vote. It was a second referendum in all but name and look what happened.
Swinson, who wanted to cancel the whole thing lost her seat, as did nearly all those politicians who pulled all those tricks to try to derail it. Labour constituencies that have been Labour for generations voted Tory in order to get brexit done.

You and others on here were totally wrong about the mood of the people regarding brexit.

I suspect that Boris is more of a centralist than you and others give him credit for, but, as I say, we'll have to wait and see. He says that, along with brexit, the NHS is his biggest priority. We'll have to wait and see if he does what he says. He hasn't always, but I believe that he now has to deliver for the voters in the north who have switched to the Tories, even die hard ex-mining communities.

Corbyn's supporters are now coming across as confused members of an extremist sect that can't work out where it all went wrong.

Time to move on.

 

I cant believe anyone actually thought Corbyn would ever get near No10! That was never going to happen. Corbyn was unelectable. I am surprised how so many (facebook and social media) are so devastated and surprised? idiots.

Remainers treated leaves with discontent. The more they mocked Leavers the more people wanted revenge. They did that through the ballot box. Quality summed it up in that we all knew enough about Brexit and still voted for it. For me democracy was the winner.

We should all be grateful that idiot Corbyn and his muppet show are nowhere near or economy. Corbyn's outdated politics are only suited to a few people. He is a dinosaur, a throwback from the cold-war that needs to go away and let the modern society move forward. The fact that he dithered over Brexit and couldn't judge the mood of the country showed his inexperience to govern. Putting the anti-semitic and terrorist stuff aside his ridiculous policies that didn't add up were laughable? A five year old could have done better!
He will go down in history as a bigger loser than Foot (who reminds me of Corbyn). The opposition needs to be strong to keep the Tories in check... He managed to f22k that up too.

The only thing that Jezza said that actually made sense and was achievable was sorting out the bloody railways, which are terrible. You go to France/Germany and see the difference in price, times, quality? Maybe Bojo will look at the railways as well?

 

Bit mental that we have a PM who won’t admit how many kids he has and it’s nowhere near the most devious thing about him. We genuinely do get the leaders we deserve.

None of which detracts from just how terrible Corbyn has been. He’s lost to a far Etonian Trump wannabe with three non-Latin words in his vocabulary. ****ing Darlington voted for that.

 

Does Bojo have loads of kids everywhere?

 

No one knows.

 

Worth while looking at what some of Corbyn's policies were - far from Marxist, they were well accepted by the population and were also mainstream in many other countries - according to polling these are the percentages who were in favour of the following Labour policies: (The German figures are also in brackets, for comparison)

60% of country's heat and electricity from low carbon or renewable sources by 2030 - in favour 79% (Germany 66%)
Free University tuition - in favour 55% (Germany 72%)
Increasing tax for top 5% - in favour 68% (Germany 73%)
Rent price capping - in favour 74% (Germany 65%)
Not having nuclear weapons - in favour 40% (Germany 71%)
Business's made to reserve proportion of seats on board for workers - in favour 63% (Germany 64%)
Utilities like energy and water being owned and run by the state - in favour 57% (Germany 48%)
Railways owned by the state - in favour 60% (Germany 46%)
My country not taking part in military interventions overseas - in favour 52% (Germany 59%)

I think it's pretty clear that there was a basis of support for Corbyn on many of those topics which could be considered as left wing by some commentators, and the German figure shows that this is not uncommon, and in other western european countries such things are standard practice - the Tory press however considers them as Marxist So I think if we're looking for reasons why Corbyn lost then it probably lies elsewhere - namely that the Tories and their media allies managed to keep the focus fixed on Brexit at the expense of everything else.

 

Interesting to note that the Tories polled 13.9m votes.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-2019-50779901

There's no figure in that piece for the Brexit party (presumably because they won no seats), but if we assume that they got around the same as the Greens, that would give a total of about 14.8m votes for Brexit parties. So at least 2.6m Leave voters supported Labour or others (at least because a number of Remainers may have voted Tory).

I draw no conclusions, merely interesting.
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Probably best to leave this thread to those who still can't accept the way recent votes have gone.

 

You could say that about any bloke!

 

There is no such things as free. Free education for example would be paid for by my taxes which would increase over night. However, getting back control of things such as Water Companies is something that need to be done sooner rather than later

 

Not about me, I’m seedless

 

****ing hell mate you don’t have to keep pretending he’s not a **** now. You won.

 

Women have heard that for years, when they ask him to wear a condom

 

Here's another:

Watford - Johnson is a murderer

Ellers - who has he killed?

Watford - no one knows