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That’s not what it says but fine. How many Tory voters would go with Remain but voted to save themselves a few quid?

It’s being celebrated as some glorious mandate for Brexit. Too late now to do anything about it and the turkeys will just have to enjoy their Christmas.

 

You can read it any which way you like but it's irrelevant, and I was just winding Stroller up...

 

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Why? Who is she? It seems that Labour is joining the bandwagon - that it is politically correct to chose a woman whoever she is, probably in all female list of candidates opposed to voting for the candidate who is likely to have the most appeal to the electorate in the future. Being seen on telly for three months every day walking to and from the discussions with Starmer and others to meet with May's crew for pointless discussions about how to get Labour to vote for May's deal does not exactly get the pulse racing. What does she stand for? Might be interesting to know.

 

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Claire?

 

So Johnson is going to legislate for a 2020 exit, deal or no deal, and will remove any commitment to protecting workers' rights and the environment. So much for 'one-nation'. So much for 'healing'. 'Wait and see' didn't take long, did it?

 

What happened to the 17.4 million? At least 2.5 million of them voted Labour or explicitly Remain parties in the GE. Yet Johnson will use the result as justification for leaving with no deal at the end of 2020.

 

He doesn’t need justification. Our definitely not at all stupid electorate have given him and Big Dom the mandate to do whatever they want.

 

I think it was the remainers who have handed him the mandate, but they still don’t understand how.

 

Good call. Let’s blame Remainers, the EU and maybe foreigners if it doesn’t go so well.

 

Can you not see that perhaps, just perhaps, you may have got it wrong all along and not once looked at the views of the other side to understand how things were being seen by them. Every frustration caused by remainers was hardening attitudes and I believe people were seeing such jubilation every time Boris lost a vote as the establishment mocking them.

 

I get it but then if you fundamentally believe Brexit is going to make people worse off do you just cave in and let them have it or try and protect them anyway?

The great con is a bloke who himself was part of that “frustration” and a load of other etonians and random babble of right wingers are somehow still the edgy non-conformist people’s champions.

 

It seems obvious to me that rather than “caving in”, you (not you personally) accept the result and try to help make it work rather than try to protect the voters by going against their wishes.

 

So true. This is what society has become....

 

I did say as soon as he won there would be changes. He now has the EU over a barrel. They don’t have their Limps/Bercow/Jezza to help them any more. Boris is calling the shots and the EU will back down.

 

Or they didn’t vote? I know a few leavers that didn’t bother voting.