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Match Day Thread Tottenham Hotspur v Chelsea

Discussion in 'Tottenham Hotspur' started by PleaseNotPoll, Dec 20, 2019.

  1. KingHotspur

    KingHotspur Well-Known Member

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    He’s silly for lashing out but it wasn’t violent conduct so I can see why Spurs have appealed it.
     
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  2. NSIS

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    Interesting to read how violent conduct is defined in the Laws. Use of excessive force or brutality while not challenging for the ball. While this raises the obvious issue of why any force is required when not challenging for the ball, what Son did wasn't brutal.

    The end of the law also says that deliberately striking an opponent on the face with the hand or arm is violent conduct unless the force is negligible. Perhaps Marcus Alonso should have been sent off for the collision with Gazzaniga.....although I agree he was fouled first.
     
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  4. O.Spurcat

    O.Spurcat Well-Known Member

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    Agreed. It was never ever a red. The fact it took VAR so effing long to decide says it all. The club is completely right to appeal.
     
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  5. Diego

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    <laugh> <laugh> <laugh> <laugh> <laugh> <laugh> <laugh>

    The Spurs alternative rule book. What if a Chelsea player had studded one of yours in the gut and ribs?
     
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  6. PleaseNotPoll

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    He might have died! <wah> It was stupid, but your description of it is just ridiculous.
     
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  7. Diego

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    Did Son push his feet up into the opponent, did his studs hit the opponents gut and ribs? if so how would you describe it?
     
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  8. PleaseNotPoll

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    As a minor clip that wouldn't fell a reasonably sturdy child, not as pedantically and pointlessly as possible.
     
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  9. PleaseNotPoll

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    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/50898486
    https://www.tottenhamhotspur.com/news/2019/december/club-statement-1/
    Inconclusive evidence, so far.

    I've been told by those that watched the match on TV that there was some live footage of a man making a ****er gesture from that area.
    Combine that with the boos that Rudiger was receiving for his part in Son's dismissal and could that be what he experienced?
    Did he think that it was monkey noises and gestures, when it wasn't anything racist?

    I'm not sure how the club can come out of this looking halfway decent, if that actually is the case.
    It'll just look like a coverup.
     
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  10. Citizen Kane.

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    It was a red card all day long and has been since Beckham did similar to Simone two decades ago. Son needs to cut this petulance out of his game. Dier has managed to do it, albeit that is more thanks to the fact that he now has the turning circle of a combine harvester.
     
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  11. Diego

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    Spurs rules <ok> :emoticon-0105-wink:
     
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  12. PleaseNotPoll

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    I haven't said that he didn't deserve a red. It was stupid and unnecessary.
    You make it sound like he tried to murder Rudiger, though. It's a laughable description.

    There were worse retaliations in the match that went completely unnoticed.
    VAR is being used very inconsistently.
     
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  13. Diego

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    Name two that were two footed, studs up and full thigh muscle powered.
     
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  14. PleaseNotPoll

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    I couldn't name one, including that by Son. Neither could you, Fergie.
     
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  15. "Thanks for that Brian"

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    The club have said...

    "The police will be reviewing our evidence alongside us."

    Maybe it happened, maybe it didn't and ultimately, people will believe what they want to believe but there's no chance of the club trying to cover this up. If that happened and then the truth came out, the club's reputation would rightly be in ruins. So, they've got the police to throw whatever light can be thrown on it and avoid the obvious allegations of partizan myopia.

    Whatever the truth of the twat with the banana and these allegations, the damage is done and in a year, our reputation as a fair and decent support is ****ed.

    Being lectured on racism by 'them'....Sickening.
     
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  16. NSIS

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    Don’t talk bollocks. He petulantly poked his Foot into Rudiger’s gut, who immediately went down like he’d been shot ( standard playacting nowadays)

    Of course Rudiger was back on his feet and arguing to get him sent off as soon as he saw it was going to VAR.
     
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  17. remembercolinlee

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    The club will not cover it up...too many of our own fans would rightly kick off (me and my lot included)if they simply investigated this themselves.
    Bryond this I genuinely believe that most if not all clubs wsnt this deslt with properly for the right reasons.
    The old bill will look st everything and if proven to be true then the ****er will be dealt with.
     
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  18. PleaseNotPoll

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    I'm going to ask them to have a look at your A key while they're at it...
     
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  19. Blue and White

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    Son needs some protection from refs.
    All three of his reds this calendar year have come about as retaliation to fouls on him which were not given. Other managers call it out and ask for protection on their players, time for Jose to do the same.
     
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  20. "Thanks for that Brian"

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    <laugh>

    I threw a cup of coffee in my previous laptop and lost letters "Q" and "Z".

    The "A" is a lot more difficult to avoid.
     
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