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Discussion in 'Liverpool' started by LuisDiazgamechanger, Jul 6, 2018.

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  1. Tobes

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    No idea what you think that has to do with my post, but it’s interesting.
     
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  2. johnsonsbaby

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    The health of the nation comes first, no question about it but just talking about the football, to say 'nobody loses' is absolute lunacy. What about all the league winners and all the prospective promotees? They won't lose anything will they <doh>
     
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  3. Diego

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    Not if they actually haven't won, no.
     
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  4. THE FOOL

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    The issues with just calling the league void for a year are multi faceted, from the obvious who wins and who loses, down to divying up the prize money.

    There are huge sums of money riding on the end standing in all the European competitions, for the clubs, sponsors, TV companies etc.

    As we know this wont be about what's fair, but how much money will businesses lose.
     
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  5. johnsonsbaby

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    It's a direct response to your mortality rate comment. You said this was running at 1%, he's questioned why other countries like Germany and Scandinavia have a much lower rate indicating that it may not be as lethal as it seems if tackled properly.
     
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  6. johnsonsbaby

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    You have a very strange way of looking at things. The clubs currently looking to be promoted will lose a potential fortune. It's like cashing out of a bet then you're told you can cash out but without the cash. You had the money all but in your hand because it's only on paper at this stage only for you to be told there's no actual money there at all.
     
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  7. Tobes

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    It’s running at over 1% globally and here, which is where we live.

    I don’t buy that our death rate and that of Italy is due to lower care standards.
     
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  8. Tobes

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    They’ve not been promoted yet as the season hasn’t completed, so their current standing entitles them to nothing, so your analogy doesn’t work. You can’t ‘cash out’ your league position when it suits ffs <laugh>

    It is what it is.
     
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  9. Diego

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    And the teams that are chasing them (with 30+ points to go) would also be pissed if they were ruled out <ok>
     
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  10. Diego

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    TBF any country with a high longevity rate will be likely to have a higher mortality rate when a virus that attacks the old or infirm blows up.
     
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  11. johnsonsbaby

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    How else do you explain Germany with 3,675 cases and 8 deaths. Norway 996 cases and 1 death, other than in comparing their early testing system which is different to all other countries. It had to be a factor.
     
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    You’ve answered your own question.
     
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    Italy are knocking on 7% death rate, but they do famously have a very old average age, which is where most of the virus death occur. USA is about 3% but no one is getting tested and their numbers are gonna go big soon
     
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    Good luck with that. Been sat with legal council all week and there is no legal comeback if a member of staff believes they caught it from someone at work. If you decide to self isolate, without confirmation from NHS, not legally required to be paid/get sick pay.

    But simply, prove that you caught it from being at work?
     
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    it will properly **** me up too. Already working from home, was the first thing me and my boss discussed.

    also worried about friends who are transplant patients, especially lung. They have some tough times ahead.
     
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    Is that down to testing or how people travel/interact socially?

    The office in Stockholm and Jonkopping haven’t said of any special measures and the largest company office In a Stuttgart only have pre plans to work from home.

    Vienna has seen panic buying but limited testing, expecting a shutting down of the city possibly.

    death rates are a mixed bag, never fully covering age, location and other chronic health conditions.

    but ultimately the first error was bringing back people from Wuhan and putting them in a bus to hospitals around UK.
     
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    Tobes didn't know why the hornets fan had picked up on his comment about comparison rates between normal winter flu and cv. The quote from me there is my comment to tobes just pointing out that what the hornet poster said was a direct response to his suggestion that cv rates are higher than normal winter flu rates when in some countries they aren't. He put forward Germany as a country that had measures in place early to tackle it which appear to be working. Germany has a widespread network of regional laboratories and one of the most extensive public healthcare systems in the world. They were able to do extensive testing very early on with the ability to test 12,000 people daily. It has made a huge difference.

    What you say with regard to the busing thing sounds plausible but none of the 97 people taken to Arrowe Park tested positive after a two week quarantine so not sure how much of an impact that had on the spread because it doesn't look like it had any.
     
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    It's not strange, its dripping with self-interest, wrapped up in some faux, altruism. 'But what about the country?'. 'Okay, end it now for the good of the people where teams are'. ' But that's not what I meant (wanted). I meant null and void'. 'Why is that so important? Thought you were mostly worried about pensioners with bronchitis?'. :emoticon-0138-think
     
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    It is probable that our death rate is artificially high as we are only doing restricted testing normally when there is a very high suspicion that someone is infected . Other countries are testing far more so use a higher figure of people people who have had the virus .
     
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