Off Topic Coronavirus and NOTHING to do with football thread

It has not been long since the Macron boy was the least popular French president in history. The yellow vests, trade unions etc are simply waiting for their opportunity to again show their dissatisfaction in Macron's leadership.

On the other hand Boris's government has been applauded by all, including union leaders, for the sensible policies announced at the weekend.

 

This is just propaganda speak.. Do you really believe yourself ??. Can you not see how bad this really is.?

Meanwhile just seen Matt Hancock on breakfast news and he again looks and talks like a rabbit in the headlights..

 

If you still believe that Johnson knows what he is doing just look through the papers.

Prime Minister Boris Johnson is facing calls from his cabinet and senior advisers to impose a full lockdown in London.

A senior government source tells the paper: "It is inevitable - you just have to look at other countries."

Buzzfeed News says the prime minister faces a "full scale mutiny" from his cabinet and senior aides if he doesn't enforce a lockdown of London in the next 24 hours.

At the moment he is like a bull in a cattle market being pulled into the ring by his nose.

 

At least there is one Wetherspoons pub that are not arseholes: Post from the Dunblane Community support page.

Hi everyone. I've had a message from the Doune and Deanston Community page. Wetherspoons have been in touch with them to see if anybody can use anything from a whole range of food that needs to be eaten or cooked by tomorrow. If anybody wants any, or knows somebody that does, please get in touch with Doune and Deanston

 

My friend in Dorset sent me a message he had received where one of the local pubs, now closed, told people to take down their own containers and fill up with the beer that would otherwise go to waste. The fact that it was also free could create a very busy pub.

 

Brilliant.. Acts of human kindness shine on light on these dark days..

 

Just got back from the daily shopping - it's all a bit ghostly but I've realized that talking to a person standing 2 metres away is not so difficult. The problem is that Germany has become a country of 80 million amateur virologists The 'real' virologists have never had so much public exposure - normally they are stuck away in laboratories hiding behind test tubes but now they are celebrities. We need to be aware of prophecies of doom and gloom - and there are lots of them around at the moment. Predictions are usefull, but they are mostly false - as we know from the Predictions League ! Either we will suppress this virus through social distancing and rapid mass testing in which case it will either die out or enter a dormant state which could lead to future localized outbreaks which, because of our experience, should remain local. Or it will continue to grow. For most people the idea of a mutation is something ghastly - like a monster, but for a virus this isn't negative at all. Biologists know that this virus has produced about a hundred strains already - but mutations of viruses are, in 99.9% of cases into milder forms. Thinking of a virus as a living organism which wants to reproduce (like all living organisms) the strains which eventually dominate will be the milder ones because they can be spread more easily. A virus which kills its victim kills itself as well unless it has a very high reproduction rate - and this one doesn't.

 

Needed to make a quick trip to the bank, and while in town noticed a small queue of people, standing outside the Pharmacie. The people were the required two metres apart, and were there as their requirements were seen to inside, then brought out to them. So so simple it makes you wonder why people in the UK still do not seem to have got the message. Just one thing that I have noticed on the TV. Between every programme there is a government advert advising and reminding people what they should do. Another simple thing, but for some reason this country just seems better prepared to swing into action when there is a crisis.

 

Anyone who thinks our govt. has handled this well so far is delusional. I take no pleasure whatsoever in thinking. and saying this. The first budget of Sunak showed how little they were listening. The delay in recognising the risk we were/are facing is actually criminal behaviour. It's fair to say Sunak DID listen to the economists in his dept (not the nutcases in No 10, thank goodness) and his next budget or was it the third - has begun to respond. When they get the self-employed up to the same level as the employed, then they will have got a grip.
The treatment of the NHS by the govt. has at least been consistent - consistently appalling. The rundown of the NHS over the last 10 years will now come home to roost. It will be interesting to see if Jeremy Hunt interrogates himself over the failures on his watch. I wouldn't trust Hancock to apply a sticking plaster.
One aspect of the financial policy is worth observing - the govt. has completely ripped up every shred of its (Tory right) economic philosophy - one that has failed the country so totally since 2010. At last. Maybe some good will come out of this when they realise what responsible govt. can do. 'I'm all right Jack' was never appropriate - now it's obvious - unless you are content to buy zillions of toilet rolls. Of course, if the market economy (so beloved of the Tory muppets running the show) had prevailed - as in the case of Dr. Mark Ali, buying up coronavirus testing kits (£120 ea) and selling them for £375 ea - then we would be in an even worse mess. Of course, running 'The Private Harley St clinic' from an obscure house in North London should have been a clue.
Then again, we could all listen to Tim Martin - wizard of hard Brexit , and the fool who thought all the pubs (well, his anyway) should stay open , on the basis that they didn't spread the virus, using no evidence whatsoever except his in-depth epidemiological knowledge derived from running a pub empire ,and with a degree in Industrial Economics.
The PM has so far failed to deliver one message that everybody can understand. He has to see the failure in order to deliver another one.
I do not want to think like this. But until I can see a policy that is working, I cannot think any other way.

 

I share the hope of this theory.....a virus that kills its hosts cannot survive therefore it has to find other ways etc etc.... I just hope that this is true and it mutates ijn the right direction as more and more opportunities are denied it.

This morning our local co-op was a gaggle of shoppers all trying to avoid each other in a space impossible to do so.

I was also masked for ther first time, and not alone. I would not want to wear such a mask all day as we see on the bruised faces of hospital professionals.

There was some stock in, no fish, little meat, but some veg and very happily for me some ground coffee and tea bags. I did not bother looking for toilet paper...

 

Ground coffee and tea bags? I prefer them separate.

 

At times of crisis, anyway will do

 

I'm just back from a twenty mile foraging trip - and am happy to report very few shortages here - other than the by now normal loo roll & soap ones.Plenty of fruit, veg, meat, fish, cheese, milk, bread, pasta etc - but, strangely, no dog or cat food. I can only assume that pensioner diets are being downgraded - or cats and dogs have worked out how to panic buy. Managed to get more essentials like rum and beer too.

One oddity I encountered was the guy at the next check-out with a trolley absolutely rammed with chocolate bars and bags of sweets...

 

A hopefully successful trial...

https://www.sciencemag.org/news/202...al-four-most-promising-coronavirus-treatments

 

Easy ride on BBC compared with Piers Morgan on ITV ripping him apart.....
Revelatory:

 

Your couldn't trust Corbyn with a whelk stall.

 

Well on that vein.... As you re-enter your trolling games..

I cant trust one word YOU post......


(Of course you post this to detract from viewing the clip.... which reveals the machinations in Govt )

 

This has absolutely nothing to do with the issue SH. The Government is there to govern and to be judged on how well they do it. We cannot cast judgement on how Corbyn, or anyone else, might have dealt with the same situation but only the Government of the day.

 

Just imagine how bad it could be with a Labour inexperienced bunch chosen from a small section of the party. Thankfully we have a very experienced government full of talent.