Off Topic Coronavirus

What do you reckon?

Sorry, that looks quite passive aggressive on the screen. Genuine question, I swing from massive public health efforts one minute to save the economy and younger generations the next.

Today is the first day that this **** has begun to affect my mood. I think it was the Italian death toll which did it.

 

I'm inclined towards it. It makes sense. That is until you have to consider the individuals affected and their families. If you can shut that out, which Trump plainly can, it seems the way to go. A horrible choice, though.

 

Yeah, I added to my original stark question.

It’s only worth doing what we are doing if it works. Did it really work in China? It’s not working in Italy and Spain. How do we judge?

Could be that the economy is gone already.

 

The world is going to be in a severe recession for some time and austerity on steroids imo

If we took the Swedish approach, we could badly damage the NHS and its workers. I think the lockdown approach is right. If Trump puts the economy first, the virus will rage through the country

 

Only if the lockdown works. What’s your criterion for success, in terms of a deaths total (brutal I know, but it’s the only real currency)? It’s ****ing difficult and I’m glad I don’t have to make the decision. I’m afraid the NHS and it’s workers are going to be badly damaged whatever.

 

I can't put a figure on it, but our partial lockdown should allow the badly infected to feed through at a lesser rate so the NHS isn't overwhelmed. Trump should have acted earlier. I think many will die unnecessarily because he was in denial

 

The CMO has put the figure of 20,000 deaths on it I think as a ‘good but tragic’ outcome. Anything much above that is an indication that the lockdown hasn’t worked, or hasn’t worked as intended. I don’t know what timescale he meant for this.

 

It should be comparative though. Compare with a country that doesn't bring in tough restrictions. It seems to have worked for China. South Korea's success was that they had tests available and used without delay. We, like other countries, don't have these yet so we have to buy time by lockdown until we can have a testing programme

 

What's a partial lockdown

Last week Just about every business was shut here and people told To go home and self isolate for four weeks
Numbers of cases here are climbing but as of yesterday no deaths
So far

 

A full lockdown would be curfews and possibly army on the streets. UK still relies on people's good sense. Not always with justification

 

Ahh ok
Same as here without the army then

 

Mate, if this thing is not controlled by current measures, we're going to lose many of our 'rights'. Hopefully temporarily!

 

If the country is in lock down why are planes full of people stillarriving
Are they being put into isolation

 

So what are the rules
Do you all have to stay at home unless you are an essential worker
The only shops open here are supermarkets and chemists
Everyone else MUST stay at home and self isolate for four weeks
Pretty sure no planes are allowed
Not even internally

 

Well said.

Talking to the bloke who’s fixing my car, has been since last October (long story), on the phone a couple of days ago. He was driving alone to his very isolated workshop in Somerset on Tuesday to do some work, essential to his survival, when he was pulled over by the old bill and told yo go home as he wasn’t an essential worker.

Annoyingly, he didn’t challenge their interpretation of the wording.

Having discovered that I fall through all of Sunak’s cracks, I’ll be fighting my cause to earn and survive for as long as poss.