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Discussion in 'Tottenham Hotspur' started by Wandering Yid, Feb 9, 2016.

  1. deedub93

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    Now all we need is Winnie Xianping to start calling it "American flu"
     
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    Usa in trouble via virus. Germany not. Something to do with their health system? Take note,world!
     
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    Two of the biggest nationalised health services in the world are also struggling, both UK and Spain. In truth, no health service could have been prepared for this. What is clear is that people from countries that suffered from Sars and Mers had PPE, masks etc. ready at home and knew to stay indoors as much as possible from the start. They were far more disciplined. Experience is a wonderful thing.
     
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    Coincidentally, Spain and the UK both sat back and didn't adequately prepare, which was naive when Covid-19 was mainly concentrated in China - but supremely negligent when cases started racking up in Italy
     
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    The UK's health service has been rrun down so we start from a lower base - fewer numbers of critical beds, fewer doctors and nurses per head etc.
    The test of a health service is how well it copes in times of crisis.
    People can't even get an ambulance in good times; what chance now?
     
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    It's certainly a wake up call, one among many. Too much international movement. Running down British industry in favour of cheaper foreign goods. I think our whole MO needs reviewing.
     
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    Exactly the kind of thing a :

    - raaaaaaaacist
    - xenophobe
    - < insert libtard attempted defamatory perjorative du jour here >

    would say.
     
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    I've always spoken like that RDBD and sometime the new 'Wokes' accuse me of what you say, tic if I understand you.. Friends have started emailing me saying 'you were right' . In a time of war, we would currently be fekked. This country must become 'self sustainable'. Remember that phase, it will become the new black. (non-racist black btw)
     
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    This **** is because of the Tories. Germany is self-sustainable. Their industries didn't die. Their agriculture works fine.
    Woke has nothing to do with it. The right intentionally created this situation.
     
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    Indeed.


    "Friends have started emailing me saying 'you were right' ."

    Anonymously, and not via an Internet 'forum' platform, I hope. :)


    "In a time of war, we would currently be fekked. This country must become 'self sustainable'.

    There will be an economic reckoning, and China will feel it.
    They are already starting to prepare for it (according to mainland
    native business acquaintances of mine) .
     
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    That isn't the point I took from it.
    It was a comment on the socio-economic policies of our government.
    We have become reliant on importing things which we could produce ourselves. Manufacturing industry has been run down over the last 40 years.
    Now we have a crisis, we may have to pay a high price for being too reliant on imports.
    Our economy relies too much on financial and service industries, which are not faring too well at present.
    The strongest economies still have strong manufacturing bases and export goods. They are able to be more self sufficient.
    The global market turbulence this pandemic is causing will adversely affect us because of our reliance upon non manufacturing industries and our government's thrift to ensure the books are balanced.
     
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    Germany had the 'advantage' of having to retool everything after the war because we smashed them to fek. In my younger days I worked with machines built in the 20's, that's 1920's not 2020's. This is the reason why Japan, followed by South Korea then China have succeeded with the 'industrial refresh'. As a Spurs fan, you should appreciate more than most, the problems with not refreshing when others do.

    You probably know from my previous posts that I am a capitalist, who has a disdain for all politicians, whether tory, liberals or socialists. All of them are a bunch of cnuts in my opinion. I don't blame any of them more than others, because all of them in the last 70 years could have invested more in the NHS than they have done.

    The thoughts of Chairman Dub reckon that by putting £50 surcharge on all aircraft seats and giving proceeds direct to the NHS, we could increase salaries of staff and have a better health service at the same time. I know marxists are going to say why should poor people pay the same as rich people, but I would argue rich people fly more so would pay more. It would probably reduce greenhouse emissions by people flying less.
     
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    If you impose only a 'gobsh*te privilege' tax across all facets of society,
    I am sure you can bleed the likes of JK Rowling, Silly Allen et al to pay
    for virtually everything on the UK PSBR sheet.
     
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    Vote 'Chairman Dub' at the next election then :cool:

    Edit, Are you up for chancellor?
     
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    And yet the NHS was fine when the Tories last inherited it.
    They austeritied the **** out of our society for ideological reasons and blamed a global crash on Labour.
    Their own policies were in favour of even less restrictions on the bankers that caused it, of course.

    The infrastructure of this country is ****ed and we've had generations of selfish arseholes refusing to invest in it.
    Things are going well? Pay out to the already loaded and act like there's no tomorrow.
    Things are going badly? Slash public services and crush the poor and vulnerable wherever possible.

    Jeremy "That's really an H?" Hunt decided that PPE wasn't necessary for the NHS staff 3 years ago:
    https://inews.co.uk/news/health/cor...-health-personal-protective-equipment-2521180
    Now he's bleating about how terrible things are and how poor the government response has been.
    The ****ers never accept responsibility for anything. It's part of their whole philosophy.

    Privatise the profits, socialise the losses. It's utterly unsustainable.
    Richard Branson is looking for handouts, while James Dyson ****ed off to Singapore and is being given ventilator contracts.
    It would be laughable if it wasn't so serious.
     
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    We had coal mines, Thatcher closed them
    We had shipyards, Thatcher closed them
    We had steel mills, Thatcher had a damn good go at those

    But of course, the left are at fault...and, by the way, can somebody tell Dr Pavlov that their dog is drooling on the ****ing carpet again?
     
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    I cannot ever be UK PM or chancellor, because I would bring an
    "equality of outcome" sh*t-storm that will cause literal cognitive
    dissonance brain bleeds en-masse across groups as
    wide-ranging as "globalists" / "big business" / media / ARSes / libtards. :)
     
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