Off Topic Coronavirus and NOTHING to do with football thread

No abuse here, obviously.

 

Juxtapose these posts.

 

I have to say that I'm having trouble finding any sympathy for him - the man who apparently told the audience at a private event that pensioners dying as a result of the strategy to protect the economy was "too bad".

The cynic in me wonders if it is even true - they all seem to heading for their bolt holes. Going into hiding rather than into isolation, as though they have finally realised the consequences of their stupidity.

 

Thank you Andy...

 

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Well who knew? The way to beat Covid-19 was simply to yell at it and tell it to go away... Good old US of A...

 

TODAY The emergency Coronavirus Bill will be rushed through as law. Today sees the 2nd reading, if passed it will immediately proceed to 3rd and on. It contains the most draconian powers ever proposed in peace-time Britain. It will be rushed through Parliament and the powers will last two years. The powers will affect your freedom and take away your rights.
Forced detention and isolation can be of anyone, including children, and for any amount of time.
Authorities can FORCEABLY take biological samples from your body.
There’s no clear access to legal rights from as-yet unidentified isolation facilities.
Powers last up to 2.5 years
Lockdown powers could prevent protests against measures.
State surveillance safeguards weakened.
Protections from forced detainment and treatment under Mental Health Act lowered.
Cremations can be enforced against personal and religious wishes.
Changes to the court system. Registration of deaths.
No inquests into suspicious deaths! No requirement for any medical certification for burials or cremations!
It also indemnifies the health service should they fail for what ever reason to provide care.
The most frightening part. Only one medical 'officer' is required to sign off COMPULSORY TREATMENT ORDER which means... in the real world you can be forced to accept medication. Or held down and injected with whatever is seen fit. THAT is the biggest and worst threat to your own freedoms. Schedule 8 Pt1.
Local Authorities will now be exempted from compliance with their duties under The Care Act 2014. Schedule 11.
The BBC wont be telling you that bit.
So. If someone dies in police custody or any type of custody they can simply dispose of the body without any paperwork medical exam or certification or inquest.

https://publications.parliament.uk/...PwRERtY4Dwrk8EhhQDVtpssM9UUp0W3-aivca8rxVlYus


Yikes.....

 

since when have you had to pay to watch tv in hospital, I wasn't a year or so back.

 

Today??

I thought they were in recess until towards the end of next month?

 

I have been into several hospitals in the UK purely to visit friends I might add, and they all had to pay to watch TV. Friend from Dorset took a small portable TV in for his wife to watch when she was in for a week, and she got charged simply to plug it into the ariel and electricity.

 

Apparently.....

 

In Scotland it depends where you are - and which hospital you are in. There are only six that charge and they are in NHS Ayrshire and Arran, NHS Grampian, NHS Greater Glasgow and Clyde, NHS Highland, NHS Lanarkshire and NHS Lothian.

I never had to pay for TV for either of my stays in hospital either - the only hassle I had was others in the ward wanting to watch something else. I got over that by borrowing my wife's tablet and watching on that.

 

From a medical dr, not even a Guardian reader.

Many consider that BoJo dithered, even against his own advisers.. Whilst the Coronavirus swept in...

Not a hint of party politics...

 

Reduced numbers of deaths today?

Clearly one is on too many really but signs maybe that the social distancing and isolation is having an effect?

 

It's too early to tell and the figures are being massaged, but it's slightly better news at least.

 

If true, I'd suggest it's more likely down to fudging figures/changing the criteria for a 'Covid-19- related' death. This Government have form for that - they used to lambast the Scottish Government for having the highest number of drug-related deaths in the UK until it was pointed out that their own methodolgy was suspect.

I don't really know, but do suspect that it would too early to say that self-isolation is working - we've only been doing for a week or so.

 

The numbers of new cases appear to be slowing in Spain and Italy. In Heinsberg (NRW), where the outbreak in Germany started, the turning point also appears to have been reached - German figures are reliable because they test the same numbers daily (currently 50,000, though this will rise soon). My guess is that by mid April all European countries will be reporting a drop in new cases but it would be risky to relax rules on social distancing too soon. Politicians who tell you that it will get worse before it gets better, or that the peak is still to come, are doing so because they don't want people to relax their guard.

 

Or unemployment figures for example...

 

That is true and @colognehornet is right too - they will want to keep people social distancing until its certain the virus is under control.

I suspect thought we might hear some people asking how long they will have to be in lockdown for.

 

Saw this referenced earlier and couldn't believe it was true. Googled it and yes, they really did it

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...-negotiator-Downing-Streets-Patient-Zero.html

And this paper is a trustworthy source of news?