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Off Topic NHS Nightingale was built in just nine days

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  1. Owld Feller

    Owld Feller Well-Known Member

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    A wonderful achievement BUT one that, I think, needs to be put in perspective.

    Exhibition centres, such as ExCeL, normally will only allow 3 days (four maximum) for exhibition organisers to construct an entire exhibition which includes erection of all the stands and running in/connecting the services required (electric/lighting/water etc) and a maximum of 48 hours to completely clear the space once an event is finished.

    Clearly, a normal exhibition doesn't include erecting pipework for oxygen supplies but apart from that I see very little difference.
     
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    Some folk will twist on 21 <doh>
     
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  3. Chunksafc

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    You dont see the difference between setting up a trade conference and a 5,000 bed intensive care unit?

    Personally to have done it in such a short space of time is an amazing coordinated effort and should be commended.

    The fact we needed to do it is more of a concern
     
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  4. Smug in Boots

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    It's a great achievement and everyone concerned deserves praise.

    To my shame I have to say it was slightly irritating to keep hearing 'it was built' in a week. On BBC Breakfast, this morning, they've changed that to 'fitted out' which is more reasonable. The OP is right that the building lends itself to this kind of use with the excellent access and possibility of bringing trucks, forkifts, etc into every area. There's also the excellent infrastructure with power points, lighting, Internet, etc.

    I've worked at places like the Cannes Film Festival, NEC, etc when massive exhibitions are mounted in days. I'm not knocking what's been done but we shouldn't be overplaying things because it looks too much like a solution which it isn't.

    The Nightingale opens today and needs 16,000 staff with the appropriate personal protection, testing equipment, etc ...

    ... I pray that none of it's needed, but fear it will be.
     
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    That's nowt. God made the Earth, and all that lives on it, in 6 days, and rested on the 7th!
     
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  6. Owld Feller

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    I think I made my thoughts very clear but you have, for some reason, chosen to ignore them, in an attempt to be contentious.

    Why do that?

    The logistics of assembling numerous identical rows of cubicles pales into insignificance when compared to erecting stands of various sizes, from different sources, with many being custom built and most having totally different supply requirements .

    None of my thoughts are intended to downplay what has been achieved, only place it in perspective.
     
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  7. Chunksafc

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    Why did you feel the need to compare a trade exhibition to a fully operational intensive care unit, your original post was contentious. What exactly is the point of your original post?

    Feel free to ignore my comment of the more important issue as to why we have had to do it
     
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  8. Jerry lee

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    Strange not one being built in the north east

    London
    Midlands
    Manchester
    Glasgow

    Yet boris heartland the north east forgotten
     
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  9. Smug in Boots

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    To be fair the Midlands has the second biggest problem after London ...

    ... plus we're a lot tougher than those Southern softies.
     
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  10. Owld Feller

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    If you need to ask that question I must question your comprehension skills, because it was clearly stated!
     
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    The Harrogate Centre is being used, just scrapes in as North East ish.
     
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  12. Chunksafc

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    And I must question your sanity, you really are an odd bloke.
     
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    It appears that a unit on the IAMP next to Nissan could be being set up to serve the North East, but no official announcement yet
    Unit with around 500 beds
     
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  14. Owld Feller

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    Maybe you can enlighten me.

    What exactly is it in the statement " I think, needs to be put in perspective" that you don't understand?
     
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  15. The Norton Cat

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    I think you're right, it does need to be put into perspective. Isn't it amazing that that they've managed to build a fully functioning hospital, installing all of the necessary life-saving equipment, within a building not designed for that purpose in only slightly more than half the time it would take for them to throw up a few stands to display some stuff? I think some people might think that you're saying that this amazing achievement isn't good enough. But you wouldn't be doing that, would you?
     
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  16. Owld Feller

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    Apologies, double post!
     
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  17. Owld Feller

    Owld Feller Well-Known Member

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    It would take more (in fact far more) than it, seemingly, takes you to jump in and attempt to defend/promote a random thoughtless viewpoint, on any subject you care to name!

    Or am I just being cynical?
     
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    Trade conferences and eventshave months of run time in pre-production. That's a big difference.

    I'm not sure how these two things are being compared and to what end anyway.
     
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  19. The Norton Cat

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    What would take more than that? What thoughtless viewpoint am I defending? One that suggests that criticising the time taken to build the hospital is unfair?

    If you feel your point has been misunderstood, maybe you should expand upon it. Rather than resorting to infantile (and unsuccessful) attempts to belittle anyone that disagrees with you.
     
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  20. Gordon Armstrong

    Gordon Armstrong Just another S.A.F.C. fan
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    No . . . . you're just (not for the first time) being an arrogant, contentious **** :emoticon-0105-wink:
     
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