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  1. Dancingstripes

    Dancingstripes Well-Known Member

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    I just don't understand why people would even call for footballers to have a pay cut or donate to the NHS?

    I don't mind what Townsend is saying actually.

    He, alongside his fellow premier league players, will be already among the highest contributors to the NHS in the country.

    Are people crying out for the supermarkets to forefeit their huge profits from this period?
     
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  2. Nads

    Nads Well-Known Member

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    Tell you what, they could freeze politicians expenses accounts and have them pay for their own travel etc out of their extravagant pay.

    That would be a massive and permanent boost to the countries finances.
     
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  3. Sandy Camel

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    If you have clubs putting non-playing staff on furlough and claiming the cash back from government, I can see why some folk will be less than impressed when players are getting more in a week than any of the non-playing staff get in a year. Additionally, some clubs could well be ****ed due to not getting the latest batch of broadcast money, as well as the potential of having to pay money back to broadcasters due to not completing fixtures, so I think the players do have a responsibility to make sure their employers can see this through.

    The world is massively unbalanced when it comes to the distribution of money, not just in football, and sadly I can't see that changing any time soon.
     
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  4. I’m spartacus

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    Morrison’s have just give 10 million to food banks and will be giving their staff a nice juicy bonus for working through this ****.
     
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  5. Nads

    Nads Well-Known Member

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    Liverpool Football Club putting staff on furlough a month after confirming a £400million kit deal.

    Unbelievable.
     
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  6. Bob Cheval

    Bob Cheval Well-Known Member

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    If you can get 80% of the wages back from the govt, any business would do the same. The players should top up the wages of these people. It would be like 1% of their pay.
     
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  7. Nads

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    Its not from the government though, it’s from the general public. WE will pay for it.

    Any business that can’t afford to and doesn’t already make huge profits should, absolutely.

    Liverpool reported a profit over £40million before they announced the biggest kit deal on the planet.

    3 clubs in the PL done it, Newcastle, always gonna happen. Spurs, ‘richest board on earth’ some say, but massive stadium debt. But Liverpool?

    No, not any business should do it. I work for Sky ‘greedy don’t care about anyone’ Sky.

    They are paying all staff full pay and benefits without aid, it should be only for companies that cannot survive without it.

    It’s clear as day that not ‘any business would do the same’.
     
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  8. Dancingstripes

    Dancingstripes Well-Known Member

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    Yes and fair play to them, but it wasn't a public outcry that caused them to do that, it was through choice, which is the way it should be done.

    Also, let's not forget, that is the same Morrisons that recorded record profits whilst allowing people to stockpile 100s of items they didn't need, causing shelves to be empty and the vulnerable to go without.
     
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  9. Smug in Boots

    Smug in Boots Well-Known Member

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    That's part of my point tbh.

    No doubt these players nod, wink and banter with Doris from the canteen and Derek the cone wrangler at the training centre ...

    ... but they seem oblivious to the hardships of losing a fifth of a low wage for months on end.
     
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  10. Dancingstripes

    Dancingstripes Well-Known Member

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    I don't think they are oblivious to the hardship.

    Many football players do a lot of charity work, and to tar them all with the same 'non caring' brush is unfair and also discrimination.

    No doubt there will be the odd few who don't care, just like any walks of life.

    Society seems to think they have a right to judge football players, wether that's if they go to the pub, what they eat, what car they drive, etc etc.

    Its strange because society is happy to scrutinise these players life's, whilst thinking it's fair to call them every name under the sun from the stands on a Saturday afternoon.
     
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  11. Bob Cheval

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    Scousers though. Experts in the benefits system.
     
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  12. Smug in Boots

    Smug in Boots Well-Known Member

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    "Society seems to think they have a right to judge football players, wether that's if they go to the pub, what they eat, what car they drive, etc etc."


    I'm not doing any of that

    Just saying that the PL players have dragged their heels and been made to look uncaring on this particular issue.
     
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  13. I’m spartacus

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    I dare say the few days of madness caught them by surprise as it would most.
     
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  14. Owld Feller

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    I see that the PFA are now stating that players taking a pay cut would be a bad idea and stating that the PREMIER LEAGUE aren't doing enough.

    I'm surprised NOT about this, especially given the person who heads it up.

    PFA says Premier League 30% pay cut plans would harm NHS

    https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/52168692

    Smarting players have finally made dinosaur Gordon Taylor redundant... the PFA now look out of touch as clubs and stars pitch in to help during coronavirus crisis

    Martin Samuel's take on things https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/f...finally-dinosaur-Gordon-Taylor-redundant.html
     
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  15. Bob Cheval

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    If a hedge fund manager or banker used this argument to justify their pay, everyone would go nuts. It’s true though. When people go crazy about ‘fat cat CEO’ getting paid £10m or whatever, they are instead arguing for it to be kept by the company and taxed at 19% corporate tax rate instead of 47% income & NI.

    I only get worked up about people who go and become tax-resident somewhere else like Branson. Or even worse, Philip Green who keeps everything in his wife’s name and keeps her in Monaco so he does get taxed being here. Worse than Branson.
     
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  16. Smiler

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    I haven't heard anyone screaming that companies like Amazon should start paying their proper taxes which would help not just the NHS massively but the country as a whole. Let's pick on footballers who are actually going against the elite grain and coming (mainly) from working class backgrounds earning the money they generate rather than the 'elite' option of tax avoidance and raking in what their employees make for them.
     
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  17. Smug in Boots

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    People are continually screaming about it, always in the news as is Ashley, Branson, Green.

    PL players, and certain clubs, have made themselves look as greedy and arrogant as that type of people.

    A month on, from the start of the crisis, and they're still squabbling about details.

    They could've quickly nipped it all in the bud ...

    ... but their natural mercenary instincts rose to the surface in the same way as Sports Direct.

    https://www.thesun.co.uk/money/9857851/amazon-tax-britain-220m-fury-loopholes/amp/
     
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  18. Dancingstripes

    Dancingstripes Well-Known Member

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    How do you suggest they "nip it in the bud"
     
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  19. Owld Feller

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    Possibly by not allowing the PFA to act as their mouthpiece?

    That would be a good starting point!
     
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  20. Smug in Boots

    Smug in Boots Well-Known Member

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    Simple, all they had to do was announce that they were making plans to help and given themselves time ...

    ... they now look like they're being bullied into it and playing the victim.
     
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