Off Topic The Politics Thread

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yes the bit that I wanted you to see was the recent poll where 88% were P'd with the EU and how they handled. Sooper was correct on the other thread. It was true while thousands were dying in Italy the EU had a meeting lasting 2 days and couldn't agree on anything! That's is 100%, fact mate. Accept it or look it up before you try and dismiss it as rubbish because you will be wrong.

 

Oh ok. Not the bit where 49% favour being in the EU and 46.1% favour leaving then.

 

The point I was making is that Ellers said Starmer is distancing himself from Corbyn, which he is. Corbyn was a natural Leaver who turned to a Remain policy. Starmer is a natural Remainer who is moving to a Leave stance.

Good to see both are men of principle, eh?

 

Watford It's like Brexit. EU fans are blinded by what is going on around them. Trust me Italy will be quitting the EU. In fact, as I have said for some time the house of cards will come tumbling down. Not because everyone is a thick gammon racist but because the EU has a very big flaw.

 

Doesn’t really answer my question at all but fine.

It’s a dilemma without doubt and one Labour have got badly wrong in recent years. Either tell people what they want to hear even if it’s **** for them like the Tories successfully do or try and convince them not to be such utter ****ing morons. Option B hasn’t worked so it’ll be necessary to sprinkle in bit of Option A. A nice lie Has always been more popular than an uncomfortable truth so I don’t envy Starmer who has demonstrated he’s more principled than anyone in the Cabinet through a long career.

I don’t honestly expect it to work but if working class people really want to get behind Boris over Starmer in four years then good luck to them.

 

The thick gammonness would be a major factor in any “tumbling down”. Just the way it is.

I was just quoting figures in the article you chose to post. More relevant figures to the article than the ones you subsequently chose to focus on instead.

As always, I appreciate you’re in the know as a paid-up member.

 

Starmer used to come across as slimy before he was the leader. Always used to say how slimy he came across. Finally, I can't say that about Jezza.
He supported Corbyn all the way until the country rightly rejected the muppet show. Then all of a sudden he is reborn as this new guy. People won't be fooled by it because the press will remind us that he was part of Jezza's inner circle. which also sounds sinister, if you know what I mean?

 

If only some other prominent politicians had changed their views over time.

 

Operation character assassination using non definitive terms just insults of opinion. Shocked.

 

But Boris was using Churchill spirit when he totally changed his mind and definitely didn’t do it because he saw it as an opportunity to become PM. Respecting the will of the people but Starmer is slimy !! Slimy I tell you!!

 

Everyone else is thick, didn't you know?

 

Not everyone, Col. It’s never been everyone.

 

Gove has stabbed every **** in the back twice over to get where he is! I could seriously punch that twat in the face all day long and never feel a shred of remorse!

 

I think Ellers has a boner for Starmer really!

 

Is he slimy though? It’s important our politicians aren’t slimy.

 

Read back my friend, every time I mention Gove it's usually followed after the word slimey

 

Someone needs to warn the Tory membership.

 

The chairman has me on ignore! He cant handle scrutiny, party policy by all account

 

Not all at once though please

 

Yeah but we know he is only doing this to try and gain votes. People aren't as stupid as you make out.