I'm a bit more confused now, as of today. Asked if people will be allowed to isolate away from their normal homes, Mr Hancock says: "If you are a contact of someone who has tested positive and you are instructed to isolate, your household members do not need to isolate. "That means you can go home and do your isolation there." Followed by this: Baroness Dido Harding, who is leading the test and trace scheme, is now setting out how it will work, as she displays the below graphic: If you have been in contact with someone who has tested positive, you are to isolate. Your household members are allowed to be in contact with you though I'm guessing as it's pretty hard to actually isolate in the same house with shared facilities, yet they can then go out and about as they don't have to isolate...does that not completely negate the effectiveness of the first person in the household isolating?
Anyone know what the current R rate is? I don’t watch the briefings because I don’t want to throw my remote at the tv. Be interesting to know what the R rate is, excluding London as well.
I can’t watch the briefings either, bad enough catching up with the bullshit on the headlines on the news.
That’s right, it’s actually more than the USA deaths in the Korean War, the Vietnam War, both Gulf Wars, and the Afghan War put together. And Trump still thinks he’s beating it.
People receiving care at home seems to be another hotspot for an increasing number of deaths. The Care Quality Commission (CQC) are reporting 3161 deaths of people receiving domiciliary care, for the period 8th April to 10th May, almost 3 times the three year average for the same period of time. One Hemel Hempstead care company has claimed that 2 coronavirus positive clients were released from hospitals, into their care, with the hospital denying/refusing to acknowledge that the patient was ill. A hospice in Lymington has been forced to close as a result of 12 staff members contracting covid-19. Yesterday Weston Super Mare hospital revealed that half their staff, treating patients for covid-19 had tested positive for it. We are not ready to come out of lockdown yet.
Something about the track and trace is bothering (other than the fact that it doesn’t appear to actually be ready to use). I think I have read this correctly. If someone comes into contact with a person who has tested positive for covid-19, that person will be alerted and told to self isolate for 14 days, even if they don’t have symptoms. Anyone sharing the house with this person doesn’t have to self isolate. This bit I don’t understand, because hasn’t it been proved that the virus can be transmitted by people who aren’t yet showing symptoms? In which case those not required to self isolate, with someone who is self isolating but who subsequently tests positive for covid-19, could actually already be infected and spreading the virus. Herd immunity?
Yeah, the more I look at track and trace as it’s being rolled out in the UK, the more it begins to look like a mirage. The scheme lets the government appear to be managing the emergence from lockdown, when in reality they’re just crossing their fingers and hoping for the best.
Lovely chat with @Rorschach's Journal not sure who was more pissed... Keep in touch guys that little chat could make someones day.
Stockholm was to be approaching 60% immunity by now, with cases slowing to a trickle. The rate of new cases has scarcely budged, and per capita remains one of the worst in the world. The per capita death rate over the past couple weeks is the worst in Europe. Don't be like Sweden.
Deaths yesterday across Europe: Spain 2 Italy 87 Germany 24 France 52 Turkey 28 Belgium 42 Sweden 84 Portugal 14 Ireland 6 Poland 13 Romania 13 Hungary 8 Netherlands 28 UK ... 324 There's no way we are ready to ease lockdown & open schools.